Tea, but only if you're making!!

Conversation with two friends yesterday:-

When a person asks "would you like a cup of tea", the response is often "only if you're making". I find this ludicrous!!

Discussed with two NT friends (a couple), who explain that the responder doesn't want to 'put out' the asker. I say ... 'but that person has just asked if you want one, i.e they're happy to make you a cup'

Then they say that you might not want one, hence your response -I say ... Well if you don't want a tea, just say no!! 

They say - The person might just be being polite by asking if you want a cup of tea, and therefore the respondent is being polite in return, knowing that 

I find it all bonkers, stuff like this, makes no sense to me 

How about everyone else on here ??!!

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  • I’m going to give them names, to hopefully avoid confusing myself - or anyone else - with my ramblings.

    Charles asks: “Would you like a cup of tea?” Camilla replies: “Only if you’re making one”.

    My understanding is that Camilla is, in effect, saying “Yes, but please don’t go to the trouble of making one for me unless you’ll already be making one anyway for yourself”. Essentially, a polite reply. I’d like one, but it’s not important enough to me for you to make that effort solely for my benefit. Even though Charles hasn’t placed any conditions on his offer, and might well be happy to make a cup for her even if he isn’t having one.

    If Charles does want a cup of tea, then all is well in their social exchange, because he can happily make one for each of them. And the conversation (or meeting, etc) can proceed with the comfort of a social nicety already having been successfully achieved by both parties.

    However, even if Charles doesn’t want a cup of tea, he might typically still make a drink for each of them anyway. Because it might typically be considered impolite for him to instead reply “I’m OK” (ie I don’t want a drink) and not make one for Camilla. Even though that should be OK with her on a purely literal understanding of the condition that she set.

    If he instead just made one for her, that might also typically be considered impolite. Because it would be clear to Camilla he had gone to that trouble, despite not wanting one himself, which might make her feel bad / guilty.

    So Camilla’s initial reply seems - to me - to be counter-productive. It aims to be polite, but in practice can place an informal, social duty on Charles to also make a cup of tea for himself, even if he doesn’t want one.

    But, equally, if she just says “no” or just says “yes”, those can signal a lack of social consideration too, even unintentionally.

    It seems to me to be a Catch-22 situation (a no-win situation, created by conflicting social expectations) - the parties usually just have to ask the polite questions, provide polite answers, and end up having a drink together anyway!

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  • I’m going to give them names, to hopefully avoid confusing myself - or anyone else - with my ramblings.

    Charles asks: “Would you like a cup of tea?” Camilla replies: “Only if you’re making one”.

    My understanding is that Camilla is, in effect, saying “Yes, but please don’t go to the trouble of making one for me unless you’ll already be making one anyway for yourself”. Essentially, a polite reply. I’d like one, but it’s not important enough to me for you to make that effort solely for my benefit. Even though Charles hasn’t placed any conditions on his offer, and might well be happy to make a cup for her even if he isn’t having one.

    If Charles does want a cup of tea, then all is well in their social exchange, because he can happily make one for each of them. And the conversation (or meeting, etc) can proceed with the comfort of a social nicety already having been successfully achieved by both parties.

    However, even if Charles doesn’t want a cup of tea, he might typically still make a drink for each of them anyway. Because it might typically be considered impolite for him to instead reply “I’m OK” (ie I don’t want a drink) and not make one for Camilla. Even though that should be OK with her on a purely literal understanding of the condition that she set.

    If he instead just made one for her, that might also typically be considered impolite. Because it would be clear to Camilla he had gone to that trouble, despite not wanting one himself, which might make her feel bad / guilty.

    So Camilla’s initial reply seems - to me - to be counter-productive. It aims to be polite, but in practice can place an informal, social duty on Charles to also make a cup of tea for himself, even if he doesn’t want one.

    But, equally, if she just says “no” or just says “yes”, those can signal a lack of social consideration too, even unintentionally.

    It seems to me to be a Catch-22 situation (a no-win situation, created by conflicting social expectations) - the parties usually just have to ask the polite questions, provide polite answers, and end up having a drink together anyway!

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