https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx212x41evwo
what about child models and actors?
A member of my family is a child model and I think it differs in several ways.
They only work for very short periods of time during the day, are not controlling the action themselves, are looked after very well by a team of people and once the day is over, it's over.
The money is being saved for university.
This video stuff seems to become a way of life for the children, so all absorbing.
I assume it will change their character and priorities in life.
Overall I think a ban on social media will be a good thing, but, kids are way more tech savy than adults and will probably find ways around it if they really want too.
I hope it stops things like the exploitation of children from videos like this, but I doubt it will, some parents see thier children as money making opportunities, where do you draw the line? Whilst we all agree that young children doing make=up and skin care routines is bad, what about child models and actors?
Will have to see how a ban pans out and how they are going to implement it. On one hand it will be tough to stop all usage, but the other hand at least children won't be used to market to other children? An end to child influencers? (or will the parents post if from their accounts and slip round the ban? We'll need more info to know what it will actually look like in practice I guess.
Children it is planned that they will be banned from most social media from early spring next year 2027. This case where a 10 year old child who is now 13 in this article doesn't seem like they will be able to do this any more.
Yes, I saw that programme too. He was really ill by the end of it.
I was referring to the family in the article in the 1st post that was posted on the BBC website. I assumed that they lived in the UK. The article stated that they lived in the South East of England. I have flagged it with the Department of Education whether monetising children for what could effect them is legal.
Are the children you mentioned in the UK? If they're not and outside the EU which has similar rules then the only control we have is not to watch.
The Department have a list of rules about children working. I wonder if this child working since 10 in this industry is a breach of the following rule-
I think that the same rules should apply to online as to offline. This girl could become an adult and think that she was abused by social media.
"in any work that may be harmful to their health, well-being or education"
Beauty pagents for little girls are quite big in America, personally I find it disgusting that from such a young age these girls are being taught that "good looks" are the way to success. If it were down to me I'd ban them. We panic about child abuse but encourage children to "look good" in a competitive way for the gaze of adults.
I remember watching a program that I think was called Supersize Me, where a bloke went to all these junk food places and asked for small or medium portions and was imediatley offered a super sized version for next to nothing, he put on so much weight his nutritionist partner pulled him off it and put him on a strict calorie controlled vegan diet to get him healthy again.
I'm not sure there was ever a golden age when children were children, I think it only really existed in Enid Blyton books. It also depends on where you grow up, the financial situation of your parents and all sorts of stuff
I agree with all of that. Inequality is everywhere snd even if somethings were idyllic, other things were not.
I used to read Enid Blyton books because they took me to an alternative world, they were escapism from a very unhappy childhood. Sometimes I wonder how I made it to independent adulthood.
It seems odd to think now that people of my parents generation mostly left school at 14 and were in work, the year before I left school it was 15 and my year was 16
I think 14 year olds were better equipped to enter the world of work in our parents’ day than they are now, possibly because work was simpler, in the sense of there not being the internet and people didn’t use calculators. Work places might have had those big manual adding machines with a hand lever in their offices, but they weren’t in general use. Shop assistants seemed so efficient and knowledgeable compared to many today, probably because today retailers use automated stock control, accounting and other online systems.
I did buy one for my daughter who was 16 at the time, because she was old enough to go out of an evening and I didn't want her walking about unable to call for help if she needed it.
Very wise and you may have been ahead of the times. Schools that have trialled banning mobile phones in classrooms have noticed improvements in concentration and behaviour. Now many parents are saying they won’t allow children a smart phone until they are 16.
I blame influencers. There's been recent trends of "beauty maxing" that involve some pretty extreme measures to achieve beauty standards which are, let's face it, probably impossible unless you're rich and have god know hows many filters on your cameras.
I can’t say that I am thrilled on the name of the condition as it seems to stem from anorexia or perhaps it does not. Anyway, I do not like to see children so fixated with cosmetics
My mum used to dress me and my sister up as young children and take photos and that was her thing, but it never made it into other people’s hands and I never went outside with it. It doesn’t seem in the photos that I was comfortable with it.
It seems a bit that the girl in that article may be being manipulated by an industry and adults. There are laws to govern minors working and I am not sure how this passes. It should come under that law. I think that it is strange if adults are among her subscribers. The mother is a bit putting her daughter out to work. Are some parents wanting a friend or to be a parent.
I know in some countries children do pageants getting dressed up and things. I am cannot say that I am fond of them.
This wasn’t really a problem for me in my childhood and I think that the majority of children seem ok.
You can get dolls heads that come with makeup.
It's very sad the levels of advertising kids are subject to. These products aren't good for them at all, they obviously don't test them on children so the effects won't be known till it's too late.
There was some advertising when I was growing up -my younger sister had a girls magazine which had stuff like makeup tips. When I was 18 she helped me buy makeup and showed me how to use it before I went to uni, so I suppose there is a balance. I just think it's gone too far these days and kids don't get a break from it.
I have some general thoughts about the world- it's crazy and it's really hard to stay healthy and well these days. We are being bombed by all kind of poisons and addictive things. Recently Youtube showed me something new on my wall- exyreme obese people, addicted to junk food. I was so shocked when I saw that picture that I clicked it because I couldn't believe it's real. Yes it is. I feel for these people trapped between a moment of pleasure and a life of pain. It is the food. And it is their choice. You can choose to snack apples or carrots (my favourite) you don't have to choose double cheeseburger, xxl pack of fries and pizza and I don't know how much more. Even if someonecsnt cook its still not a valid reason. I actually stuck in loops like I'm so shocked it stuck in my head last two days. I hope it will go quickly. I remember myself after my pregnancy, I was exhausted and out of exhaustion started eating more sweets. The result was visible. My mom told me these are hormones for sure. I just nodded because I had no energy for discussion, but I told myself: no, these are not hormones, but too much of chocolate and cookies. I was far from that extreme that these people are. But what I can see, many or maybe most of these companies sell us "wonders" and pleasures to make us sick, addicted and dependent. Then the next one who makes money out of sick people is big pharmacy. And I wanna be clear-its nor that we don't need medicine or vaccines etc. But they won't replace healthy lifestyle. These children use creams that they don't need and shouldn't use. Who knows, what will be the long term consequence after few decades?
12 is an awkward age from what I remember about myself and my own children, you're not really a child and not really on the path to adulthood yet either. It's difficult to navigate as a child and as a parent. I remember my daughter at the age of about 10 asking me to buy her a bikini, I said no, that bikinis were for women and that she could start to have the things that belong to women, after she became one and gradually. My daughter's 43 now, but even then before the internet there were things like silky "sexy" nighties for little girls, my daughter wanted them partly because I wore stuff like that, but I wouldn't let her.
Honestly I think parenting is anxiety causing full stop, I'm not sure there was ever a golden age when children were children, I think it only really existed in Enid Blyton books. It also depends on where you grow up, the financial situation of your parents and all sorts of stuff.
It seems odd to think now that people of my parents generation mostly left school at 14 and were in work, the year before I left school it was 15 and my year was 16.
I remember a lot of conflict with my parents about what I was allowed to do or wear, I'm sure if I were a child now I wouldn't be allowed a phone at all, or only a dumb phone that could calls an texts and those would be scrutinised. When phones did come along and were cheaper, I did buy one for my daughter who was 16 at the time, because she was old enough to go out of an evening and I didn't want her walking about unable to call for help if she needed it.
I already mentioned ‘pretend lipstick’ on this thread. The other pretend things that spring to mind were cigarettes which were sweets. I preferred the pretend cigarettes which were like short straws. You filled the ‘straw’ with talcum powder and blew to make ‘smoke’ come out. My mother used to buy me these even though she was a non-smoker.
