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What does the task of reading that frog book test specifically?

Zuriiix

Hi I just did my ados assessment and was kinda boggled by the frog book and the behaviour it would reveal. During my assessment I just said stuff along the lines of “the frogs are going through the town, now they’re going across the rooftops.” Basically, pretty mundane. But the task was so straight forward im just asking what exactly the task tests you on? And if there’s anything different that an autistic person might do instead (not to generalise autism but out of curiosity). Yes I know I should just wait for my results but it’s ages away and I’m simply too impatient.

  • in reply to Cinnabar_wing

    I agree. I am not sure it is best to undermine tests.

    I was confused by it at the time, a year ago. I thought I was too good at it, but got quite a high score, so thought about it.

    I think it is quite a good exercise, which is why they retain it. It is deceptively simple like all good tests, which is why as adults you think it is beneath you. But that' misses the point.

    It doesn't prove anything on its own, but it is contributory data. I think it may be hard to fake.

  • I think it's looking for things like expression in the voice, facial expressions, gestures, pointing etc. 

    Honestly, I think it's an outdated test based on an old fashioned concept of autism based on one specific portrayal. Even more so for adults as many of us can put on a front to, for example, read to a child. So we may be able to do all those things for the sake of a book but not in other situations.

  • I suspect that it is supposed to test the ability to string a narrative together and if you use gestures to illustrate what you are saying, because autistic people are not supposed to have imaginations, be able to create imaginary conversations, or use gestures. Plus autistic people are supposed to get hung up on the details of why a frog is eating bread, when frogs do not eat bread and suchlike. All outdated idiotic nonsense, in my opinion. I'm just glad that my assessment was by a consultant psychiatrist, who just had a long conversation with me about my traits, difficulties and history.

  • I don't think we are meant to talk about the tasks specifically in case it influences someone who hasn't done it yet, though I think everyone has heard of the existence of the frog book! though I totally understand wanting to talk to someone about it.

    I don't know what it tests, I think we aren't meant to know in case it effects the way we answer, but I do wish they could find a way to test whatever it does test in a more dignified way for adults!

    (I think I might have done it at the start off my assessment, not everyone does, but I was so nervous at that point I think I might have dissociated a little, as I actually have blanked it from my memory though I think it's in the report!)

    Good luck for your results, hope you don't have to wait too long!