Better start saving for next winters fuel bills

Today petrol has jumped by 2p a litre on the forecourt, gas has almost doubled in price so we can expect a deepening of the cost of living crisis. Thank you very much to Donal Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu....not.

Ok nobody I know liked the regime in Iran, but just blowing them up was never going to work, did it not occur to them that the Iranians would fight back? The clerical regime in Iran is just as entrenched as the Catholic Church, you wouldn't expect to blow up the pope and St Peters in Rome and have no one to take over. I'm sure the Iranian regime has just as much structure and fall backs as the Catholic Church does. Now we all seem to be getting dragged in, I'm really pleased Starmer said NO to Trump using our bases, there's no legal basis for this war and I suspect that as ever America just wants us along to help with the death toll, it's about time a British PM didn't follow the US blindly into its foreign wars.

Whats even worse, is that from everything they keep saying, they don't even know why they went to war in the first place and as ever theres no plan for what ahppens when the war ends.

  • No, but he's an extreme right wing Christian so in a sense he has a cult following. He's a zealot and zealots of any stripe scare me

  • we'd have JD Vance instead and would he really be any better?

    Yeah, I’ve wondered the same thing. Maybe a bit? At least he doesn’t have the cult following that Trump does.

  • He's got a coterie of yes men around him who are too spineless to stand up to him and many who agree with him and are egging him on.

    I did see some high ups in the states talking about getting rid of him under the mental incapacity part of the constitution, but I doubt if they have the number or the general will to do so and if they did get rid of him, we'd have JD Vance instead and would he really be any better?

    I really feel for people in the services who could well be asked to comit genocide and war crimes, what do they do? It seems a damned if they do and damned if they don't situation.

    I hope Trump back down, I really do.

  • I agree  He has a need to be the main news headline. Somebody recently said that they were beginning investigations into war crimes, was it the UN? I think the UK and other countries should be stronger in its condemnation and action. Perhaps because negotiations are going on between European leaders and Gulf states that don’t directly involve Trump, it is causing him annoyance.

    Also, Israel has been hitting the areas around nuclear sites in Iran and they are wanting to decimate Lebanon.

    I don’t understand why that man can’t be kept under control. 

  • What I don't understand is the news coverage, where is the cry of the fact that all this is horrific war crimes, instead they are publishing the headlines he wants them, even over here. Targeting the population should have a warrent out for his arrest from the international criminal court, so if he steps off his plane he can be arrested when he tried to visit one of his golf courses. 

    Drunk on power and elevating himself to deciding who lives or dies of a people half ways across the world from him.

  • It’s beyond horrific! 

    His primary concern is himself.

    The trouble is that nobody knows if he is serious or not because he often changes his mind, talks gobbledegook and tells many lies. At the same time he could be deadly serious.

    Somebody on the radio said that the only way that he could wipe the entirety of Iran out would be to use nuclear weapons. 

    Imagine being part of a family in Iran right now, perhaps one of the many people who have spent their lives seeking a peaceful existence. What must be going through their minds right now? 

    I don’t know how the political system in the US works but I wish there was some way of putting that man under lock and key because he is out of control and extremely dangerous, primarily to Iran today but also to the world. 

  • "A ​whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will," Trump wrote on his Truth Social website, in a statement directed at a nation that takes pride in ​being one of the earliest centres of civilisation, dating back thousands of years into antiquity.

    "However, now that we have Complete and Total Regime Change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds ⁠prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen, WHO KNOWS? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the World."
    Reuters, 4/7/26

    Seriously feeling sick right now. He’s doing all of this simply because he wants to be known for being responsible for “one of the most important moments in the […] history of the world”

  • It's Trump people don't like, not America or the Americans.

  • It sounds like today's Government announcement about the 1 April support fund for heating oil difficulties is still filtering through to Councils (according to the Local Government Association):

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9mgpzn901o

    It is a confusing situation at the moment.

  • I looked at a quote for heating oil in February, it was £560 for 1000 litres, todays price is £1,400, that’s  if I want delivery at the end of the month or £1,800 if I want it this week.

    The £1,800 is dearer than buying diesel from a garage forecourt . The garage diesel has about £1 of duty per litre, the oil delivery would be duty exempt apart from the 5% vat.  The price of oil hasn’t tripled.

  • Yeah, it's really helped, especially as the warmth dries clothes too. We have an electric radiator for the office to save heating the whole house in the day, plus I am wrapped up in blankets as I hate cold knees which are a given for working on a PC all day! (And helps for the power cuts as it takes a while got it to cool down so can normally tide over till power gets restored.)

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    I haven't heard anything specific about help, I'm afraid sceptical till it appears, though I think last time they did something similar, I think the way it worked was credited to your oil account or something like that. Just hoping for mild whether so we don't have to use it too much.

  • Thank goodness for the Aga!

    Growing up, we had an Aga which kept the kitchen blissfully warm. I would love one but as I don’t do much cooking and I’m on my own it wouldn't be economical. 

  • They have allocated 17 million to N. Ireland which has about 500,000 households using oil. It’s not going to be enough to cover the extra costs as according to reports, prices of oils have doubled since the war. 

    I have gas so there is a price cap until June, but what about after that? 

  • The governments announced help for some people with the cost of heating oil. I know it will go to devolved governments to dish out so I guess each will have different criteria for who gets anything?

    Lots of people here have oil or LPG for cooking and heating or are all electric, which would be great if we didn't have so many power cuts, especially if you live out in the sticks.

  • That’s horrifying, I’m so sorry

  • We are paying more than twice that cost.

    I think the government tax is around 50%

  • Okay if that math is right then it’s probably much worse over there. I have $3.50 per gallon at the nearest gas station

  • I make it $7.05 per gallon for unleaded and $8.07 per gallon for diesel, but I’m using £1 = $1.34.

    Petrol near me is £1.39 per litre and £1.59 for diesel.

  • We have oil heating. The latest bill was painful.

    On the plus side the heating was broken for a week, so that saved some, just had the water and the Aga thankfully.