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TheCatWoman

Today petrol has jumped by 2p a litre on the forecourt, gas has almost doubled in price so we can expect a deepening of the cost of living crisis. Thank you very much to Donal Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu....not.

Ok nobody I know liked the regime in Iran, but just blowing them up was never going to work, did it not occur to them that the Iranians would fight back? The clerical regime in Iran is just as entrenched as the Catholic Church, you wouldn't expect to blow up the pope and St Peters in Rome and have no one to take over. I'm sure the Iranian regime has just as much structure and fall backs as the Catholic Church does. Now we all seem to be getting dragged in, I'm really pleased Starmer said NO to Trump using our bases, there's no legal basis for this war and I suspect that as ever America just wants us along to help with the death toll, it's about time a British PM didn't follow the US blindly into its foreign wars.

Whats even worse, is that from everything they keep saying, they don't even know why they went to war in the first place and as ever theres no plan for what ahppens when the war ends.

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  • The Islamic theocracy of Iran which is characterised by the fusion of state and religion, restriction of political dissent and enforcement of religious conformity cannot be compared to the hierarchical structure of the Catholic Church which emphasises moral and spiritual guidance without political control. There is a defined separation of church and state in most places (Vatican City excluded) and the church engages in reform and dialogue, advocating for human rights and religious freedom. If harm were to come to St Peter’s and the Pope, they would be replaced. The system of structure of the Catholic Church may influence politics through offering moral guidance, but it does not allow despotism.

    Cardinal Pietro Parolin, Vatican Secretary of State, expressed concern that “a multipolarism marked by the primacy of power and self-referentiality is dangerously taking hold.”

    https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2026-03/cardinal-parolin-interview-middle-east-iran-us-israel-war.html

    The chaos of missiles hitting numerous countries was created by the US and Israel choosing to attack. 

    TheCatWoman said:
    they don't even know why they went to war in the first place and as ever theres no plan for what ahppens when the war ends

    They haven’t said. Trump et.al. are offering varying reasons. This may because they don’t have a valid reason that would be acceptable to the world or they haven’t thought about what they want to achieve. 

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    I was using the Catholic Church as a comparisson for modelling how a religious regime embeds itself into a countries structures rather than making any moral comparisson, I'm sorry if this comparisson offended anyone.

    Why on earth start a war if you don;t know what you want out of it? It's not like there aren't enough examples of what happens when countries are bombed by outside forces and then left to rot, become failed states and rrouble the world for decades after.

    If there's no reason that the rest of the world would accept, then it's corruption at the highest and worst level, as far as I can see. Do they think we'll accept it after the fact and things will go back to normal? I don't think so.

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    TheCatWoman said:
    Why on earth start a war if you don;t know what you want out of it?

    I think it is possible that Trump has a plan with no purpose other than to glorify himself and Netanyahu. He has no regard for the loss of life in Iran and the rest of the world. It is disgusting that some US politicians are so cavalier about the loss of life and are making sneering statements that are intended to humiliate. 

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    TheCatWoman said:
    The other big questions are what will China and Russia do? Russia may well be less of a problem seeing as it's so tied up in Ukraine, but I wouldn't bet on it

    It’s difficult to know which way things will go for Russia. All this human life lost needlessly in the world because people like Putin, Trump, the Iranian Islamic regime, Netanyahu and others are so power hungry, greedy and impervious to suffering. The money spent on war could have alleviated the effects of famine and poverty.

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    TheCatWoman said:
    The other big questions are what will China and Russia do? Russia may well be less of a problem seeing as it's so tied up in Ukraine, but I wouldn't bet on it

    It’s difficult to know which way things will go for Russia. All this human life lost needlessly in the world because people like Putin, Trump, the Iranian Islamic regime, Netanyahu and others are so power hungry, greedy and impervious to suffering. The money spent on war could have alleviated the effects of famine and poverty.

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