Potential roll back on womens rights

I noticed a few days ago that reform are wanting to make childless women pay more tax because were not contributing to society in the right way, basically if we get to menopause and have no children we wrong and unnatural and should be made to pay. 

At no point does it mention infertility, let alone make infertility, there just seems to be a blanket assumption that women have no children through selfishness. 

Parents
  • There are so many people who are parents, but they shouldn't be actually. They abuse and neglect their own children.  And yet someone got an idea to punish people for not having children. It's interesting,  that in some people's minds having children is only a woman thing. Well, we can't impregnate ourselves out of nowhere, there must be a man involved. Best, if the man is involved not only in making the baby, but also in life. To not sound anti-men I want to emphasise,  that there are many good loving and supportive fathers and partners. 

    The problem with people not having / not wanting babies is highly complicated and very complex. The core issues are lack of stability,  poor financial situation,  pressure for constant education and development,  which often erases the plans of having babies. There are also various health issues, also mental health issues,  the infertility etc. And it's also hard to find a good partner (applies to both sexes) because our times are somehow crazy, many people tend to have unrealistic expectations from others, but not willing to put effort. Or treating others like objects. 

  • i've realised how people sometimes accessorise their children, or show them off to cause some other people pain.

    Really people who cannot take care of pets should not be allowed to have children.

    I am on pot plants at the moment recently graduated from rocks.

Reply Children
  • It’s kind of self limiting to most people to have children because of the cost or burden or reality. People who have 10-12 children are typically supported by the system.  I don’t think having more children drastically increases chances of your genes survival. It’s also what quality of life you might be bringing them into. 

    This sounds like a very neurotypical special interest ;;. 

  • That is very well said.i really should bee more careful what my fingers type ;)

    I’m only on plants but I’m looking to adopt an animal (not human)

  • One of my sisters adopted (technically not childless) which is amazing. There is this thing looking at kids when they have Birthdays and Xmas that you are making their future memories, anything you do or say is a huge responsibility as a parent as they might all you up on it one day. Kids doing what they see from the world through the internet scares me a lot. So much is distorted now.

  • Yes, show off, social media, social status, ho others perceive them etc. I have one daughter and I don't want more. I concentrate on providing her with everything she needs not only material needs, but also emotional. If someone does not want to have children -in my opinion it's better if they don't have them. There is also rising tendecy to rise children with excessive multimedia use. Just to have some peace, parents let the kid play hours on the mobile. It's harming children, rising people with various illnesses since the young age, but somehow nobody cares. My daughter is excited when I buy her clay and colored pencils and not a mobile, because I also spend some time playing with her. Kids do what they see from parents.

  • Really people who cannot take care of pets should not be allowed to have children.

    They shouldn’t be allowed to have pets.

  • Really people who cannot take care of pets should not be allowed to have children.

    Can you imagine the outcry if we tried to introduce a license to procreate LOL. Unfortunately it is often the least intelligent or uneducated who find themselves with unplanned pregnancies and then become parents.

    I am on pot plants at the moment recently graduated from rocks.

    I'm much the same but with construction tools - it seems each new power tool I buy has an increasing chance of removing parts of my body if not carefully handled - maybe it is some sort of natural selection process...