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  • Profound autism, is it real, or is it just intellectual disability with certain autistic features? People with intellectual disability, who are also talkative and extrovert and keen on social interaction are not called 'profoundly neurotypical'.

    This sort of thing, like assignment of species in human evolution, tends to switch between 'lumpers' and 'splitters'. The 'spectrum' saw lumpers in the ascendant, perhaps the pendulum is swinging the other way?

  • I agree it is an interesting take, but I think it obvious that not everyone with autism is the same and maybe it would be better to acknowlege the differences? I've wondered before why some people are not labled as very NT, do other NT's find them difficult and exhausting to around?

  • I've wondered before why some people are not labled as very NT

    NT = a person without autism, adhd, Tourettes, dyspraxia, dyscalculia, sensory processing disorder and so on and so forth.

    How can a person be 'very' of that?  How would you know them?

    What do you see as the qualities that make a person neurotypical and then, very neurotypical?

  • using allistic rather than neurotypical,

    Yes.

    That's my point.

    Neurotypical is too far ranging IMO for what then becomes a sweeping statement. 

    I find neurodivergent -v- neurotypical comparisons unhelpful.

    NT is simply an umbrella term for a range of conditions with brain 'wiring' differences in common.

  • Possibly, using allistic rather than neurotypical, the opposite of an autist would be a sociopath who was socially adept, a good communicator, but an empathy-free manipulator of others.

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  • using allistic rather than neurotypical,

    Yes.

    That's my point.

    Neurotypical is too far ranging IMO for what then becomes a sweeping statement. 

    I find neurodivergent -v- neurotypical comparisons unhelpful.

    NT is simply an umbrella term for a range of conditions with brain 'wiring' differences in common.