Wes Streeting's move against autism - NAS - time to step up

I'm aware that this discussion may get a little heated, but I hope that it stays away from getting too much so. I do not mean to cause offense or lead to any arguments. So here goes.

I woke up to this morning's headlines: 

Health Secretary Wes Streeting is to launch an independent review into rising demand for mental health, ADHD, and autism services in England.

I haven't added the link to the article as I know this will trigger a delay to having this posted. But I'm thinking you will have seen this this morning. 

I am so angry on so many levels. And I am hoping that the NAS is angry too and can respond to his move with a firm and robust response. Because.

Now, I am going to call it out. Mr Streeting, I think that this is what I would be calling: Discrimination. Discrimination with a big, fat capital D. Discrimination against a marginalised group. A vulnerable group. That deserves your protection and that you should have our back. As the HEALTH secretary. Shame on you. Shame on you.

I may not respond to any responses to my thread, if it gets too heated. And I am happy for the thread to get locked or removed.

It's time to Step Up.

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  • There is an interesting discussion article on the subject here:

    https://theconversation.com/what-looks-like-overdiagnosis-is-really-a-system-struggling-to-provide-continuous-care-271667

    It is well written and informed and comes to a realistic conclusion:

    The system is not failing because too many people seek help. It is failing because brief, discrete episodes of care cannot manage long-term, complex needs. Until that changes, debates about overdiagnosis will keep obscuring the real issue: building a mental health system that stays with people, instead of processing them and moving on.

  • I concur.  Simply asking the question why don't waiting times overall come down might point towards failings to actual help people manage their difficulties perhaps?

    Why does a health service in peace time need to employ triage systems that evolved in order to manage war time casualties for example?

    An old friend of mine pointed out to me that in some traditions a health care expert was employed predominantly in order to keep the society healthy.  When the society became sick they found a better health care specialist...

    The greatest advances in health care came over 150 years ago from improvements in sanitation.

    I am of the opinion that in respect of mental health a similar approach to ascertaining where the metaphorically polluted psychological wells are and ensuring people are not forced to drink from them is what is heeded now.

    For example why when people are known to experience harmful gambling addictions is it legal to advertise gambling in such a fashion as is allowed in the UK?

    Why are people encouraged to aspire to personally and globally unachievable/unsustainable consumerist expectations?

    Why is economic growth seen as the only way for already hugely wealthy sections of society to achieve happiness whilst others starve?

  • why when people are known to experience harmful gambling addictions is it legal to advertise gambling in such a fashion as is allowed in the UK?

    Because gambling companies lobby the government and line their pockets personally. It really is that simple - corruption.

    Why are people encouraged to aspire to personally and globally unachievable/unsustainable consumerist expectations?

    To maintain the industries that supply to them - the changing of these industries is too complex for the government to manage so they remain hopelessly trying to sustain it and hoping it won't collapse on their watch so they can blame whoever is in power at the time.

    Too hard to do = kick the can further down the line.

    Why is economic growth seen as the only way for already hugely wealthy sections of society to achieve happiness whilst others starve?

    It helps to look at the people controlling the wealth and manufacturing - they have a vested interest in keeping the gravy train going, they have enough money to keep politicians in their pockets and they don't care about the little people affected by it all.

    I'm afraid I believe the problems have gone on for far to long, the system gotten too corrupt and the only way it will change is when it falls down, but the fallout from this will be most unpleasant for us all.

    On a brighter note, I saw a labrador puppy today and that made me forget about all this rubbish for at least 5 minutes Slight smile. Gotta take the wins where we find them.

  • Matter of fact, kicking the can is the best way to describe it. I have these discussions weekly, about how marketing is used/abused to sell luxury goods to the poor, but also about the ongoing mistreatment and violence against women and girls.The big topics are typically hijecked as a vehicle for big companies, brands and influencers to effectively sell you nothing at all for extortionate prices.

    The ship is already sinking. 

    I think there are portions of society which are so beyond cynical now that the whole system is entirely transparent. And they blame inequality and the class divide which is simplistic, because the true target is veiled. 

    I was chatting yesterday to someone about the BBC. The fact now is that terrestrial television is dead, you will never hear this from the corporation. Everything is dandy, even when they have been sued from every direction for the past 30 years and paying these legal expenses with license fee money. This is one example. 

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  • Matter of fact, kicking the can is the best way to describe it. I have these discussions weekly, about how marketing is used/abused to sell luxury goods to the poor, but also about the ongoing mistreatment and violence against women and girls.The big topics are typically hijecked as a vehicle for big companies, brands and influencers to effectively sell you nothing at all for extortionate prices.

    The ship is already sinking. 

    I think there are portions of society which are so beyond cynical now that the whole system is entirely transparent. And they blame inequality and the class divide which is simplistic, because the true target is veiled. 

    I was chatting yesterday to someone about the BBC. The fact now is that terrestrial television is dead, you will never hear this from the corporation. Everything is dandy, even when they have been sued from every direction for the past 30 years and paying these legal expenses with license fee money. This is one example. 

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