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Flag waving

TheCatWoman

It seems that the English flag is being used again as a symbol of nationalism, being paraded around the streets by those wanting rid of asylum seekers and placed in gardens.

Do you feel comfortable with it? I don't, for me it's tainted by Neo Nazi's and other fascists, or for football.

In Britain we've never had a habit of flag use and worship like some other countries, mostly seen in America and I wouldn't like us to acquire the habit. 

Am I the only one to find it ironic that St George was a Turk? He supplanted St Edmund as Englands national saint on a whim of Richard the Lionheart, we have lots of native saints to choose from, St Alban, St Edward, St Thomas A'Becket, St Hilda, and so many more often more obscure ones like St Petroc or St Willibrord.

I also feel uncomfortable that as a non Christian the flag is a blatently Christian religious symbol, at least in Wales we have Ye Ddraig Goch, The Red Dragon, nice and mythological and non religious.

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  • Heaven forbid we have English flags in England. 

    I do notice a lot of areas don't seem to have many people complaining when they line the streets with TQ+ flags. And no one seemed to complain when out local Town Halls flew the Palestine flag.

    I was on my way to one of those hotel protests yesterday. It was in an area I'd never been to before so I had to go through some villages I didn't know well. I quite liked seeing various union flags dangling from lampposts. They looked nice in the sunshine. Ironically, some of those lampposts had special attachments for council advertising 'flags'.

    On the subject of the protest though, I would have rather liked the far-left lot to come out with their St George flags.

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  • Heaven forbid we have English flags in England. 

    I do notice a lot of areas don't seem to have many people complaining when they line the streets with TQ+ flags. And no one seemed to complain when out local Town Halls flew the Palestine flag.

    I was on my way to one of those hotel protests yesterday. It was in an area I'd never been to before so I had to go through some villages I didn't know well. I quite liked seeing various union flags dangling from lampposts. They looked nice in the sunshine. Ironically, some of those lampposts had special attachments for council advertising 'flags'.

    On the subject of the protest though, I would have rather liked the far-left lot to come out with their St George flags.

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  • in reply to mp500

    The issue is the misuse of English flags in promoting an idea of Englishness that reflects intolerance, whiteness, hooliganism, thuggery, Islamophobia, criminality and racism. It is for one purpose only—to induce fear by sending a message that you are not welcome here. 

    The intention behind correct and incorrect use of the English flag is not so difficult to work out. 

  • in reply to mp500

    It's not England having a flag that many people object to, but the uses it's put to, the Union flag too. As a child of the 70's my associations of it are football holiganism, skinheads and the National Front, all of it violent and never in anyway positive. I'm white English and even as a teenager I felt it was divisive, not "my" England and proviked way more fear in me than any person of colour ever did.