Religion and Spirituality

I know this is a contentious issue, but I wnat to talk about it anyway and I hope people can be respectful to the beliefs of others. 

It seems to me that although we in the UK are called a Christian country, we're not, most people don't attend church, many are nominally Christian, church for hatchings, matchings and despatchings, maybe xmas and easter too. Many will attend church to get their children into a high performing church school. Our main bank holidays focus on a Christian festival calendar, Easter, Pentecost, Xmas etc, but I wonder if we should add the holy days of other faiths, like EId, Diwali, the Solticies?

We have so many faiths in this country and many people who don't identify with any particular faith, but are broadly believers in something.

I'd like to see bishops removed from the House of Lords and the Church of England disestablished, in a multifath society I don't see what their place is in the giovernance of the country, I think you either have to have representatives of all faiths or none and seeing as many faiths don't have an episcopal system I don't see how it would work where the representatives come from and which community would they be representing? I think the same is true of the current situation and bishops, there are many Christian sects that do not recognise and episcopal system.  

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  • I see the Anglican Church has elected a woman to be Archbishop of Canterbury, it's already upsetting some, personally I don't see what the problem is? 

  • I think that the issue some have still is that Jesus' 12 disciples were all men and women had mainly  supportive roles in the ministry in the New Testatment mainly.  In the Old Testatment that were some outstanding female prophets who God supported, these were people like Deboarah, Huldah and Miriam.. I don't know what led to a slight change in the New Testatment. Though Anna was a female prophet in the New Testatment who I love her story and my female rector at church thinks it should be used more for women. Philip the evangelist had four daughters to in the New Testament who were gifted in the ministry role. I know that in modern life Jesus suports women in the church and has me to as I served in the church at 17 and I am female and it was owned by a woman who he supported to.  Times in the world have changed and the position of women to and the church has clearly moved with this

    I have three main rectors minsters who are females in my church and I love their style, theiy are modest and so welcome and given my healing to for a nervous conditon one, so Jesus is clearly supporting them being a female.

    The Bible doesn't support misgony and remember it was written at a different time of the world. (Galatians 3:28)-said that God sees everyone the same before him, women and men etc.

    I go to an Anglican church as an non demontional Christian and my church welcomes the new rectors we have who are females. Hopefully Sarah can help steer us in the right direction and I welcome her to this position.

  • The role of Mary Magdalene has also been more seriously looked at in recent years, if I remember rightly the bible never says she was a prostitute, but it does say that Jesus loved her, maybe more than the other disciples. I think her role along with that of Jesus's brohter James, were inconvienient to the bible's later compilers

  • Hi  I will listen to it later, probably over the holidays. I have a book that is very old by a man called Herbert Lockyear titled all the women of the Bible. They don't seem to make books like this anymore with all the information. I photed what they said on Mary Magadlene as you don't seem to like Amazon and modern things. You can dlownload the pages here to save to read later if you want to.

    www.cewe-myphotos.com/.../

  • It sounds interesting but I don't have prime, please let us know if its worth watching and what conclusions if any it comes too?

    To be honest I'm getting more and more wary of many documentaries, you seem to get 10 mins of information, then an ad break, then a reprise of what they talked about before the first as break and so on and in the end you only get about 15 mins of information. I find it an insult to my (and everyone elses) intelligence. I also wonder where some of them get these so called experts from and how main stream some of their views actually are, as some of them just seem to be spouting rubbish. I've nothing against new research and people looking again and differently at things and pointing out some of the absurdities of some theories, but to me, you don't counter absurdities with even bigger absurdities.

  • About Mary Magdalene I saw this programme on Amazon prime on her. I haven't watched it yet myself. It is free if you have amazon prime and I do and may watch it later. 

    Watch Religious Figures - Mary Magdalene | Prime Video

  • The topic has moved to women and the church. I updated this post today and it may show you another side this question of misogyny. Mary Magdalena Jesus transformed her the demons she had she been like a test case for him to show his divine work. She also supported his ministry financially and she was a comforter him during the Passion of Christ, his arrest to crucifixion. I have pasted what I wrote on women below.

    Women prophets were present in the Old Testament and the New Testament. A prophet means that someone proclaims a divine message from God. In the Old Testament, Miriam was a prophetess (Exodus 15-20) "Then Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron.... Sing to the LORD, For He has triumphed gloriously! The horse and its rider He has thrown into the Sea!"

    So to was Deborah in the Old Testament a prophetess (Judges 4:4). Deborah was a prophetess and judge and she led the children of Israel to peace for forty years by her prophesies she gave to Barak to go to battle against Sisera. Huldah was also a prophetess (2 Kings 22:14) (2 Chronicles 34:22). Huldah was sought out by King Josiah to authenticate the Book of Law. In the Old Testament Noadiah is also a female prophetess (Nehemiah 6:14). Herbert Lockyer in his book "All the Women of the Bible" (pg 41) describes prophets and prophetesses as being the media between God and his people Israel in the Old Testament.

    In the New Testament, Anna (Luke 2:36) was referred to as a prophetess. So to did Philip the evangelist have four daughters who were prophetesses (Acts 21:3).

    The gift of prophecy is one of the eight spiritual gifts of the Holy Spirit. There are differences in ministries and activities, but God works in all of these gifts (1 Corinthians 12-6). Through prophecy, the church becomes edified "But he who prophesies edifies the church"(1 14 Corinthians:3-4). Women today still can have this ministry gift although it seems to be less used today  You can though open a blog online to support the church like I do and have a Divine Inspiration section like I created to edify the church and support others to with this gift. "And God has appointed these in the church, first the apostles, second prophets, third teachers" (1 Corinthians 12 28). There are other roles we can perform in the church for both men and women like being a minister of faith, an apostle.

    I think the main issue some people have today is that there was no women among the 12 disciples. Today women are supported in most church’s I would say and time has moved on somewhat and there are to women who have been called to this role of ministry and who have for centuries lived consecrated lives to like nuns praying for others and living life as intercessors. All women can be richly blessed in Holy Spirit gifts and that means that Jesus is supporting them. I have three women rectors at my Anglican church. These three women happen to be very good to at the fruits of the spirit to like love, peace and modesty. I like to highlight these as I have served in this role and to keep the history going on it and that more importantly that God has always had a space for women in ministry roles in the faith and many people do not realise this.

    In Jesus’ time there were other women who turned out to be Holy women who supported the church like Joanna, Mary Magadalene, Priscilla and Phoebe. 

    Joanna Luke 8: 1-3 23:55 24:10
    Priscilla Acts 18:2 18 26 Romans 16:3 1 Corinthians 16:19 2 Timothy 4:19
    Phoebe Romans 16 1: 2
    Mary Magadalene Matthew 27:56, 61, 28:1, Mark 15:40, 47; Mark 15:49, 16:1-19, Luke 8:2, 24:10; John 19:25; 20:1-18.

    There are all different types of feminism like liberation feminist theologies which is about gender justice for both women and men. I see myself as an egalitarian-someone who sees women and men as being equal. To take this further and to effect change they then need  equalist treatment so this is put into practice in the community level. In (Galatians 3.28)  says that there is no man or woman before God and that we are all equal before God.

    Women clearly have had a long history serving God as prophetesses through the ages to the present day.

    Embrace your ministry and faith in God as a Christian female. You are welcome.

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  • The topic has moved to women and the church. I updated this post today and it may show you another side this question of misogyny. Mary Magdalena Jesus transformed her the demons she had she been like a test case for him to show his divine work. She also supported his ministry financially and she was a comforter him during the Passion of Christ, his arrest to crucifixion. I have pasted what I wrote on women below.

    Women prophets were present in the Old Testament and the New Testament. A prophet means that someone proclaims a divine message from God. In the Old Testament, Miriam was a prophetess (Exodus 15-20) "Then Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron.... Sing to the LORD, For He has triumphed gloriously! The horse and its rider He has thrown into the Sea!"

    So to was Deborah in the Old Testament a prophetess (Judges 4:4). Deborah was a prophetess and judge and she led the children of Israel to peace for forty years by her prophesies she gave to Barak to go to battle against Sisera. Huldah was also a prophetess (2 Kings 22:14) (2 Chronicles 34:22). Huldah was sought out by King Josiah to authenticate the Book of Law. In the Old Testament Noadiah is also a female prophetess (Nehemiah 6:14). Herbert Lockyer in his book "All the Women of the Bible" (pg 41) describes prophets and prophetesses as being the media between God and his people Israel in the Old Testament.

    In the New Testament, Anna (Luke 2:36) was referred to as a prophetess. So to did Philip the evangelist have four daughters who were prophetesses (Acts 21:3).

    The gift of prophecy is one of the eight spiritual gifts of the Holy Spirit. There are differences in ministries and activities, but God works in all of these gifts (1 Corinthians 12-6). Through prophecy, the church becomes edified "But he who prophesies edifies the church"(1 14 Corinthians:3-4). Women today still can have this ministry gift although it seems to be less used today  You can though open a blog online to support the church like I do and have a Divine Inspiration section like I created to edify the church and support others to with this gift. "And God has appointed these in the church, first the apostles, second prophets, third teachers" (1 Corinthians 12 28). There are other roles we can perform in the church for both men and women like being a minister of faith, an apostle.

    I think the main issue some people have today is that there was no women among the 12 disciples. Today women are supported in most church’s I would say and time has moved on somewhat and there are to women who have been called to this role of ministry and who have for centuries lived consecrated lives to like nuns praying for others and living life as intercessors. All women can be richly blessed in Holy Spirit gifts and that means that Jesus is supporting them. I have three women rectors at my Anglican church. These three women happen to be very good to at the fruits of the spirit to like love, peace and modesty. I like to highlight these as I have served in this role and to keep the history going on it and that more importantly that God has always had a space for women in ministry roles in the faith and many people do not realise this.

    In Jesus’ time there were other women who turned out to be Holy women who supported the church like Joanna, Mary Magadalene, Priscilla and Phoebe. 

    Joanna Luke 8: 1-3 23:55 24:10
    Priscilla Acts 18:2 18 26 Romans 16:3 1 Corinthians 16:19 2 Timothy 4:19
    Phoebe Romans 16 1: 2
    Mary Magadalene Matthew 27:56, 61, 28:1, Mark 15:40, 47; Mark 15:49, 16:1-19, Luke 8:2, 24:10; John 19:25; 20:1-18.

    There are all different types of feminism like liberation feminist theologies which is about gender justice for both women and men. I see myself as an egalitarian-someone who sees women and men as being equal. To take this further and to effect change they then need  equalist treatment so this is put into practice in the community level. In (Galatians 3.28)  says that there is no man or woman before God and that we are all equal before God.

    Women clearly have had a long history serving God as prophetesses through the ages to the present day.

    Embrace your ministry and faith in God as a Christian female. You are welcome.

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