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Religion and Spirituality

TheCatWoman

I know this is a contentious issue, but I wnat to talk about it anyway and I hope people can be respectful to the beliefs of others. 

It seems to me that although we in the UK are called a Christian country, we're not, most people don't attend church, many are nominally Christian, church for hatchings, matchings and despatchings, maybe xmas and easter too. Many will attend church to get their children into a high performing church school. Our main bank holidays focus on a Christian festival calendar, Easter, Pentecost, Xmas etc, but I wonder if we should add the holy days of other faiths, like EId, Diwali, the Solticies?

We have so many faiths in this country and many people who don't identify with any particular faith, but are broadly believers in something.

I'd like to see bishops removed from the House of Lords and the Church of England disestablished, in a multifath society I don't see what their place is in the giovernance of the country, I think you either have to have representatives of all faiths or none and seeing as many faiths don't have an episcopal system I don't see how it would work where the representatives come from and which community would they be representing? I think the same is true of the current situation and bishops, there are many Christian sects that do not recognise and episcopal system.  

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  • The fact, that bishops are present in the house of Lords suggests to me that church is involved in politics. Right? 

    I'm officially Christian,  it wasn't my choice, I was just born into a Christian family.  I don't celebrate any Xmas or Easter. My husband is Muslim, if he wants to celebrate Eid, he can do it, but I also didn't see him preparing it. Sometimes he goes to see his friends and there he celebrates Eid with them. I believe in God, but somehow differently than other people. I believe in God, as the consciousness of the universe. Not a living being walking with his feet on the ground, going to have lunch in Abrahams house or destroying Sodom and Gomorrah or giving Moses 10 Comandements or using Ark of Covenance or giving instructions to Noah, how to built a ship etc... I don't even think, that God should be referred with 'he' as masculine. Not feminine either.

    Once I asked my teacher, during the religion class, what people was Kain afraid of, out of the Eden, if there was supposed to be no-one, if Adam and Eve were tge first humans created by God. I also asked her, if it's all true, or just written in the bible. She was furious that I dare to question the hy book. Instead of giving me an answer, she was furious that I date to use my brain and ask a logic question.  This way she made me question more and think more. Sorry, if I trigger anyone. I didn't read the bible in whole, but what I red there was enough for me to dislike religions in general. The holy books of all religions have many similarities between each other and other ancient texts that predate them. 

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  • The fact, that bishops are present in the house of Lords suggests to me that church is involved in politics. Right? 

    I'm officially Christian,  it wasn't my choice, I was just born into a Christian family.  I don't celebrate any Xmas or Easter. My husband is Muslim, if he wants to celebrate Eid, he can do it, but I also didn't see him preparing it. Sometimes he goes to see his friends and there he celebrates Eid with them. I believe in God, but somehow differently than other people. I believe in God, as the consciousness of the universe. Not a living being walking with his feet on the ground, going to have lunch in Abrahams house or destroying Sodom and Gomorrah or giving Moses 10 Comandements or using Ark of Covenance or giving instructions to Noah, how to built a ship etc... I don't even think, that God should be referred with 'he' as masculine. Not feminine either.

    Once I asked my teacher, during the religion class, what people was Kain afraid of, out of the Eden, if there was supposed to be no-one, if Adam and Eve were tge first humans created by God. I also asked her, if it's all true, or just written in the bible. She was furious that I dare to question the hy book. Instead of giving me an answer, she was furious that I date to use my brain and ask a logic question.  This way she made me question more and think more. Sorry, if I trigger anyone. I didn't read the bible in whole, but what I red there was enough for me to dislike religions in general. The holy books of all religions have many similarities between each other and other ancient texts that predate them. 

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  • in reply to Alien0n3arth

    The black line's interesting as it show the people who have faith, but don't believe in a God, this could include Bhuddists as they don't have a god, but are intensly spiriual. This always something interesting to debate with Bhuddists, as to outsiders Bhudda looks and sounds like a god, Puja's are prayers with no god to listen to you?

    I find early religions interesting and where they cross over into the Christian bible, but then the Old Testament is a history of the Jews and their God, that seems to have been taken on by Christians. Something else I don't really understand and never really get a satisfactory answer too.

    I wasn't brought up inany religion, I was baptised and Christened, more because that was what you did rather than from any genuine religious feelings. So when I went to school I found it all rather confusing, our religious teaching was sketchy at best, more an interpretation by our head master that he thought we'd understand.

    Later in life I was called towards Paganism and my beliefs although changed somewhat are still deep and at the centre of my life. I've done a few things that Pagans aren't particularly noted for, like meditation, silent retreats etc, these deepened my connections. I often work with a particular aspect/Goddess and lately I've been trying to see my life as part of the wyrd, which is really interesting, coming to see the points of connection, nodes where threads come together, part and run alongside eachother, it's helping me to have a much deeper understanding of the universe and my place in it, just a tiny whisp of thread.