Why Did Number Leave This Place?

Hi everyone,

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Sharon Mod

Thanks Sharon for popping up here and seeking constructive queries and questions from us.

Now that I have been safely cleared of a charge of writing a "offensive" post, in another thread, I really must ask you, and anyone else here, a question that is REALLY, bothering me.  I just can't shake it, and wonder if I am going mad here.....because nobody else seems to be querying a logic that (apparently) is "just fine.....nothing to see here" type thing......but that simply defies all sense of reasonableness, fairness and logic to me.

I have a scenario in mind, where I have a very good friend who is the pre-eminent authority in his field of Psycho-Analysis of  Autistic People (lets call him Freud,) and a fellow community member here, (lets call him Roger) who I am fascinated by, because he is so different to me.

Now if I had asked Freud to have a look at a few select extracts from this place, to offer his opinion on Roger, and was given a formal report on Roger, would I then be allowed to post something like this about him;

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Hey everyone, I got my good friend Freud, to make an assessment of one of our other members here, Roger......and I thought it would be important for my mental well being, to just share with the group, these things that he has pointed out to me about Roger.

Freud said that Roger can be characterised in the following way;

Repeatedly misrepresents sources including his own.

Ignores counter-evidence.

Introduces gender and politicised language

Is observed to be cognitively rigid

Doesn't update views when shown contradictory evidence

Uses anecdote over evidence

Introduces inflammatory labels

Makes it hard to engage constructively,

Doesn't show willingness to engage with reliable sources

Doesn't consider alternative views in good faith

Makes personal assumptions

Demonstrates recognisable DARVO patterns of behaviour

Dismisses or re frames clear factual corrections

Continually asserts points contradicted by mainstream sources

Questions the motives of others, suggesting misandry, ideological agendas or condescension

Doesn't address substantive points

Frequently portrays himself as a wronged party

Avoids responsibility for his own misrepresentations or inflammatory framing.

So anyway, I just thought this might help Roger in the future, to see all these things written about him here, and I hope he will improve as a human autist soon.

Tatty bye.

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Now Sharon.........SURELY......the above would not be allowed to be written about another member of our community here - by me - no matter how pre-eminent my mate Freud is (in my opinion) and no matter how much I felt the need to post this sort of character assassination, for my own mental well being?  I'm not wholly sure which particular rules it would break, here, but SURELY it would break some of them?  And perhaps more importantly.....SURELY everyone would object to my behaviour in this scenario?

Rest assured, I'm not being "cute" here - this is a FOUNDATIONAL query to my understanding of what is allowed, and what is not in this place?  Would it make a difference if I sent a copy of Freud's report to the MODS first for pre-approval of Freud's credentials?

If you can manage a response to this directly, I would sincerely be grateful - and genuinely - for my mental well being!  I think I am going mad?!?!

Thank you in advance Sharon.

Kind regards

Number

Its an interesting perspective.

If Freud had passed judgement it might be seen as fact.

If an AI extract is posted it might be seen as opinion.

The first would seem problematic, the second as freedom of speech. 

I was and still am inclined to view it as opinion, albeit overly defensive and somewhat personal, and let it go.

It seemed there was more backstory than I could be bothered with and fairly clearly there was what might be called a personality clash. 

Its an interesting perspective.

If Freud had passed judgement it might be seen as fact.

If an AI extract is posted it might be seen as opinion.

The first would seem problematic, the second as freedom of speech. 

I was and still am inclined to view it as opinion, albeit overly defensive and somewhat personal, and let it go.

It seemed there was more backstory than I could be bothered with and fairly clearly there was what might be called a personality clash.