Out of touch with culture?

I believe that we, as a people, became too postmodern. Other cultures here are fine, but in the past they had to integrate into the native culture. Diversity, on the other hand, made us dog-eat-dog. No other culture is made to integrate. Which leads to societal collapse.

I believe that we, as a people, became too postmodern. Other cultures here are fine, but in the past they had to integrate into the native culture. Diversity, on the other hand, made us dog-eat-dog. No other culture is made to integrate. Which leads to societal collapse.

Britain has always been culturally diverse, we've been trading with the rest of the world since at least the Bronze Age, the Romans enforced their culture on the Iron Age inhabitants of Britian and the rest of Europe. Roman Britain would have been a very multicultural place, we can see that from grave stone memorials, things like the Vindolanda Letters, even in DNA and artifacts found in archaelogical sites.

Anglo-Saxon England was diverse too, Christian missionaries from different cultures wandered about the place, they wanted others to conform to thier way of thinking, especially the Roman ones, who sewed division with other forms of Christianity and were very hostile.

The Vikings both did and didn't try and fit in with the native cultures of the places they occupied.

Probably the biggest dividers were the Normans, all across Europe and th Middle East wherever they went there was war and division, take overs of local populations and their cultures. In England the local people were more or less enslaved, a look at the Doomsday Book shows who owned what in 1066 and who owned what in 1086, the change in ownership was staggering, also English clergy were marginalised and replaced by Normans.

I come from a large town with many different people and cultures, it's normal to me to see different skin colours and hear different languages. Even after all the years I've lived in Wales and Scotland it still seems strange that there are so few non white people.

People are being allowed to form and celebrate their own cultures and sub-cultures, groups that were previously hidden, like us ND's, or LBGTQI are able to be out and proud and accepted, mostly, there are still a few dinosaurs that want a buttoned up, repressed and homogenised culture, where we're only allowed to be different behind closed doors, as long as nobody finds out.

Many things we think of as British, like fish and chips aren't they came along with Jews fleeing pogroms in Russia.

Desmond1979 said:

No other culture is made to integrate. Which leads to societal collapse.

The USA is a classic case of many cultures coming together and not being forced to integrate to any standards (at least originally). They became incredibly strong off the back of it while many cultures maintained chunks of their own identity.

This seems to have swung to an extreme now and there appears to be a push to purge any non white, non approved cultures from the country and this is leading to tremendous strife.

In Europe it seems we have passed the point of no return with other cultures flowing into ours, and since the days of the empire there have been sizable numbers arriving and doing their own thing.

Some don't choose to integrate much. The Hassidic Jews keep to their own areas in London by and large but are not an issue to anyone. Indian, Pakistani and Banglideshi have formed sizable enclaves around the country but many have integrated well while still keeping areas that are very much of their own culture.

You just need to travel around London to find populations from the Carribean, assorted Far Eastern countries etc who keep much of the essence of their cultures while integrating for all essential purposes.

I even found an enclave of Brazilians in Shoreditch when I was there who kept apart from the Brits as they find our culture very bland and many of us to be rude. Talking to them about their experiences I have to agree with them.

I'm sure when the Normans invaded in 1066 there was little cultural integration, or when the Romans arrived or any number of historical inflows of peoples. Over time this sorts itself out and we, as a society, evolve. It is how society has always worked.

Can we really say that the old culture was really that good?