Are we really the minority we're told we are?

Neuro diversity is such a huge thing and few people seem to understand it, but more and more symptoms are being recognised all the time and neuro-typical people seem to be finding it hard that we don't seem to be the minority they thought we were, we're mainsteam, but special, or we're treated as special, more special than them anyway, when we're not being kicked and punished for being different, although what that different actually is seems fairly indefinable.

Is it possible that we could be moving towards a post ND world?, Not yet obviously, to many of us are still struggling for recognition and diagnosis and te help that can come with it. But as the number of us grows, should it be less us and them and more of an idea of we're all a bit different and thats OK? 

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  • I'm not sure we are such a minority as is thought. If I hadn't happened to watch a documentary featuring an autistic woman I might never have guessed I was on the spectrum, and there must be other adults like me who haven't thought about it. Even with kids it can be masked. Until we get widespread testing we won't know. I wonder if the Sally & Anne test could be introduced as part of base line testing when children start school, or maybe the AQ50 test could be given to teens at secondary/high school?

  • Children start school so early these days do you think a 3-4 year old would understand the test? At that age they've not developed abstract thinking, would that skew the test? Otherwise I think it's a good idea, even if it wasn't done when they first start school, mabe it could be done a bit later, when they're about 7 maybe?

  • I believe Simon Baron-Cohen at al did the test on 5 year olds and another source claims that most children aged 4-6 who are not autistic can answer correctly, however it could of course be delayed until 7, as it has been reported that older children who are autistic usually still give an incorrect answer.

    I doubt that either the Sally - Anne test or the AQ50 for teens would be implemented though, as I expect the government would fear what they call "over diagnosis" and many parents would then want a full professional diagnosis to get their child support in education, which would be costly.

  • That makes more sense Lotus, but I have seen teachers combine all 3 or 4 learning styles in their lessons and I've been on the recieving end of it a few times, hense my confusion.

  •    - apologies, I don't think I have explained the aural/visual/kinaesthetic approach as well as I should have. It isn't about explaining the same thing three different ways - it's about combining learning styles in one lesson. Here are some examples:

    For the dyslexic children I worked with, I taught them to read and write simple nouns by drawing a picture of what the word represented (e.g. a cat), saying the letters that make the word (c, a, t) and then writing the word. This means they hear the word, see a visual representation of it, and learning is reinforced physically by writing the word. 

    For the adults I worked with, I used a lot of pictures and sometimes videos to show the meaning of the words in English. Also we often got the students out of their seats and moving about the room, for example if we were practising how to ask someone what their hobbies are, we would tell them to mingle and practise asking each other what their hobbies are and then write down some answers e.g watching TV, playing football, etc So they would be shown some pictures of hobbies, be told the words for them,speak to each other about which ones they like, and the moving around is the kinaesthetic part which helps reinforce  the learning.

    A good teacher should be monitoring students to check understanding - there is no reason to explain something a different way if a student already has the correct answer. The dyslexic children I worked with were sent out of the class to work in a small group with me, because they had specific needs the other children didn't have. In language schools students are tested and put into classes at the appropriate level for their understanding.

    I don't do any sort of teaching now, and I haven't worked in a mainstream school since the mid 1990s. But if they are still working the same way, I would suggest more streaming. We had such a huge range of abilities, from 7 year olds who could not read at all, to gifted 10 year olds who were not being stretched academically. But some kids who can't read do well in maths, and vice versa so it's not easy, and getting the right mix of teachers and teaching assistants is also difficult and costly. 

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  •    - apologies, I don't think I have explained the aural/visual/kinaesthetic approach as well as I should have. It isn't about explaining the same thing three different ways - it's about combining learning styles in one lesson. Here are some examples:

    For the dyslexic children I worked with, I taught them to read and write simple nouns by drawing a picture of what the word represented (e.g. a cat), saying the letters that make the word (c, a, t) and then writing the word. This means they hear the word, see a visual representation of it, and learning is reinforced physically by writing the word. 

    For the adults I worked with, I used a lot of pictures and sometimes videos to show the meaning of the words in English. Also we often got the students out of their seats and moving about the room, for example if we were practising how to ask someone what their hobbies are, we would tell them to mingle and practise asking each other what their hobbies are and then write down some answers e.g watching TV, playing football, etc So they would be shown some pictures of hobbies, be told the words for them,speak to each other about which ones they like, and the moving around is the kinaesthetic part which helps reinforce  the learning.

    A good teacher should be monitoring students to check understanding - there is no reason to explain something a different way if a student already has the correct answer. The dyslexic children I worked with were sent out of the class to work in a small group with me, because they had specific needs the other children didn't have. In language schools students are tested and put into classes at the appropriate level for their understanding.

    I don't do any sort of teaching now, and I haven't worked in a mainstream school since the mid 1990s. But if they are still working the same way, I would suggest more streaming. We had such a huge range of abilities, from 7 year olds who could not read at all, to gifted 10 year olds who were not being stretched academically. But some kids who can't read do well in maths, and vice versa so it's not easy, and getting the right mix of teachers and teaching assistants is also difficult and costly. 

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