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Do people still have value to you?

purelambdaphi

Non-instrumental social value, that is. I'm sure they still have moral value for you still.

And by "non-instrumental" I just mean something you value for the sake of it, as opposed to valuing it because it enables you to experience/achieve/etc. something else (like how money is usually seen as valuable to the extent that it can buy you things, be passed down to enrich your progeny, etc.).

I'm sure the ones out of you that are parents, or have SOs, will say yes. I'm more leaning towards no, myself. After I reached a certain age experiencing social dynamics for the sake of it has become almost "conceptually dubious" to me.

In fact, I suspect I only interact or post things online instrumentally -- with the goal of putting boredom at bay or something like that.

(And, yaeh, I'm anticipating that it is plausible that someone here has the view that "All social valuing is instrumental" or some such. You're still welcome to elaborate on your position, if that is the case for you.)

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  • Your posts are welcome here  , but would you please use everyday English phraseology?  Not everyone here is familiar with your philosophical terminology as it is not commonly used in everyday speech. Everyday English would help more people to respond.

  • in reply to ArchaeC
    ArchaeC said:
    Your posts are welcome here  , but would you please use everyday English phraseology?  Not everyone here is familiar with your philosophical terminology as it is not commonly used in everyday speech. Everyday English would help more people to respond.
    ArchaeC said:
    Apology accepted.
    ArchaeC said:
    Ah I see! AI is caught in a loop.

    I get upset whenever new members find themselves being criticised for their autistic traits.

    Differences in communication are a core feature of autism, and can include using more "formal, precise and technical speech":

    NAS - Autism and communication

    Regardless of whether or not any of us might find another person's style harder to read or to understand, to me "inclusivity" includes not criticising anyone's differing style, and not expecting / asking / requiring them to mask - including by writing differently than they prefer to.

    This article also refers:

    "A lot of autistic people have grown up being told that they are aliens, or that they sound like robots, or there’s just something wrong with them,” Young says. When ChatGPT came along, they “quickly realized that it kind of sounded like I do”—logical and specific."

    Wired - For Some Autistic People, ChatGPT Is a Lifeline

  • in reply to Bunny

    Sorry that you are upset Bunny. I did not intend to upset you. I was struggling to understand the post rather than criticise and I believed it was more constructive to say so, and to ask for the meaning to be explained. Apologies.

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  • in reply to ArchaeC

    You take it as expected that someone that is merely struggling to understand someone else's post to say: 

    ArchaeC said:
    Ah I see! AI is caught in a loop.

    ?

    I think it would be more unsurprising that you were struggling to understand my post in additional to something else.

    Anticipating that this "something else" having being you taking offense to something I said, or how I said it, I remained apologetic -- as to prevent the interaction to turn adversarial.