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Do people still have value to you?

purelambdaphi

Non-instrumental social value, that is. I'm sure they still have moral value for you still.

And by "non-instrumental" I just mean something you value for the sake of it, as opposed to valuing it because it enables you to experience/achieve/etc. something else (like how money is usually seen as valuable to the extent that it can buy you things, be passed down to enrich your progeny, etc.).

I'm sure the ones out of you that are parents, or have SOs, will say yes. I'm more leaning towards no, myself. After I reached a certain age experiencing social dynamics for the sake of it has become almost "conceptually dubious" to me.

In fact, I suspect I only interact or post things online instrumentally -- with the goal of putting boredom at bay or something like that.

(And, yaeh, I'm anticipating that it is plausible that someone here has the view that "All social valuing is instrumental" or some such. You're still welcome to elaborate on your position, if that is the case for you.)

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  • in reply to TheCatWoman

    That's fine. I hope I haven't caused you to believe interactions with me are generally likely to become adversarial. If you have that belief, maybe I could help dispel it if you're interested. And don't take that as a bad thing that you didn't get what I'm saying. There's nothing bad about not being familiar with certain words or not sharing certain concepts with other people, by itself.

    I'll just give it one last attempted at clarifying my original post for the sake of diligence, and I'll specifically use terms as understood under my semantics of value so you can have a more concrete idea of what I'm talking about:

    When I say something has value to me in general, I'm referring to some preference I have. For instance, murder being morally not valuable to me just means I prefer that murder by itself not occur. "Moral preferences," in this sense, are just preferences about things commonly labelled as being a matter of ethics (murder, stealing, lying, etc.).

    Under this use of the term, people "having social value" would mean I preferring or having the desire to interact with them.

    TL;DR: So, following that thread, the OP is just asking something along the lines of "In the context of casual interaction, do you still have the preference of interacting with people?"

  • in reply to purelambdaphi

    I still don't understand what the OP is about, or how I can I ask you to clarify further, so I'm just going to bow out of this conversation before it gets adversarial