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Do people still have value to you?

purelambdaphi

Non-instrumental social value, that is. I'm sure they still have moral value for you still.

And by "non-instrumental" I just mean something you value for the sake of it, as opposed to valuing it because it enables you to experience/achieve/etc. something else (like how money is usually seen as valuable to the extent that it can buy you things, be passed down to enrich your progeny, etc.).

I'm sure the ones out of you that are parents, or have SOs, will say yes. I'm more leaning towards no, myself. After I reached a certain age experiencing social dynamics for the sake of it has become almost "conceptually dubious" to me.

In fact, I suspect I only interact or post things online instrumentally -- with the goal of putting boredom at bay or something like that.

(And, yaeh, I'm anticipating that it is plausible that someone here has the view that "All social valuing is instrumental" or some such. You're still welcome to elaborate on your position, if that is the case for you.)

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  • purelambdaphi said:
    I'm sure the ones out of you that are parents, or have SOs, will say yes. I'm more leaning towards no, myself. After I reached a certain age experiencing social dynamics for the sake of it has become almost "conceptually dubious" to me

    I found that when you stopped trying to understand and pre-empt the social dynamics and value weighing and just forussed on being happy and doing the things you want to do then it led to a greater feeling of self worth.

    There are always things you need to do to pay the bills for the vast majority of us which brings its own share of anxiety but if you start to try to read into your interactions with society too much as well then this is a poor recipie for good mental health.

    My approach has been to look at this only occasionally, use my knowledge and experience to map out the dynamics and create any plans or considerations then leave it alone and get on with life for the next few weeks.

    For everyday life the approach you mention is way to much in my opinion and it is best to live a little more in the moment. Just my take but it has brought me peace of mind.

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  • purelambdaphi said:
    I'm sure the ones out of you that are parents, or have SOs, will say yes. I'm more leaning towards no, myself. After I reached a certain age experiencing social dynamics for the sake of it has become almost "conceptually dubious" to me

    I found that when you stopped trying to understand and pre-empt the social dynamics and value weighing and just forussed on being happy and doing the things you want to do then it led to a greater feeling of self worth.

    There are always things you need to do to pay the bills for the vast majority of us which brings its own share of anxiety but if you start to try to read into your interactions with society too much as well then this is a poor recipie for good mental health.

    My approach has been to look at this only occasionally, use my knowledge and experience to map out the dynamics and create any plans or considerations then leave it alone and get on with life for the next few weeks.

    For everyday life the approach you mention is way to much in my opinion and it is best to live a little more in the moment. Just my take but it has brought me peace of mind.

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