Looks like it's starting....

Trump has sent National Guard troops into LA to help control protests at raids by immigration enforcement. I've though for a while America is on the brink of civil war, now it looks like it's about to start, it dosent' surprise me that its happening in California either, it's governor is anti-Trump and could be a rival for the presidency, California seems to be an outlier, in that it's socially liberal and green. This is how all dictators start, eleimate the opposition, disable non compliant media and put troops on the street.

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  • I cannot understand why the American public haven’t called an indefinite general strike. The longer they wait to mount an adequate response the more impossible it will become.

  • Maybe many agree with Trump?

    Maybe many don't know about it, with American news being so local?

    Maybe they don't care?

  • It was in his manifesto and he won the election. He said he would remove illegal immigrants.

    The clue is in the name, illegal. If you have no legal right to be there, you have legal right to be there. The issue is the law has not been well enforced on the past. There are millions who have become comfortable who don't want to leave for various reasons. You don't have a right to just live where you want.

    But I suspect most of the trouble is being caused by opportunists out to cause trouble. Waving foreign flags is also somewhat incendiary.

    Trump won't back down nor will most people want him to.

    The left can call him a dictator if they want, but I don't think that is what is going on.

  • Both the SNP and the Greens have been infiltrated by extremists who's priority is NOT Scottish independence. 

  • Don't the SNP and Green's want independence? I thought they'd been collaborating in Scotland for a while?

  • If the Act of Union, isn't a union and Scotland and England were were disolved into part of a new country, then how come Scot's law still applies and Scotland has a different education system to England and Wales? How come it's banks are allowed to issue currency and yet Banks in England or Wales aren't?

    I’m simply stating facts: the English and Scottish parliaments each passed an act of union which dissolved the previous countries. The UK is a unitary state with a single sovereign parliament. The UK only has a single currency, which is controlled by the Bank of England.

    There was a referendum and people did narrowly chose to remain joined, but after Brexit the terms that, that referendum were fought on and promises made were overturned 2 years later. The fact that the Scotish Parliament has to ask permission from Westminster to hold another referendum tells me that the union isn't between equals and that Scotland, like Wales was subsummed by England. 

    20% more people voted No than Yes and in all the years since there has never been any kind of election in which the majority voted for parties with independence in their manifestos.

  • If the Act of Union, isn't a union and Scotland and England were were disolved into part of a new country, then how come Scot's law still applies and Scotland has a different education system to England and Wales? How come it's banks are allowed to issue currency and yet Banks in England or Wales aren't?

    There was a referendum and people did narrowly chose to remain joined, but after Brexit the terms that, that referendum were fought on and promises made were overturned 2 years later. The fact that the Scotish Parliament has to ask permission from Westminster to hold another referendum tells me that the union isn't between equals and that Scotland, like Wales was subsummed by England.  

    I don't have any particular axe to grind about Scottish independence, or Welsh for that matter, but I do think the current situation is unsustainable and the obvious answer is to federalise

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    Now Israel have decided to bomb Iran and Trump seems unable to decide who's side he's on, does he really want more talks or does he want to support Israel, because I don't seen how he can do both or be considered an honest broker?

    It seems there are radiation leaks around the bunker Israel hit. That will be a disaster not just for the region, but for all of us, it will mean more refugees, less safe food and water, less habitable land and the possibility of escalation.

  • it would be like Scotland wanting to leave the UK, where we see that the union isn't really as voluntary as we're told.

    We had a vote - the biggest in our history - and the majority voted to remain part of the UK. The UK government freely allowed this and let the nationalists set the terms of the vote (which was a mistake). 

    Also, the UK isn’t a union. The union was an act (two actually) which dissolved the pre-existing countries of Scotland and England and replaced them with a single new country.

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  • it would be like Scotland wanting to leave the UK, where we see that the union isn't really as voluntary as we're told.

    We had a vote - the biggest in our history - and the majority voted to remain part of the UK. The UK government freely allowed this and let the nationalists set the terms of the vote (which was a mistake). 

    Also, the UK isn’t a union. The union was an act (two actually) which dissolved the pre-existing countries of Scotland and England and replaced them with a single new country.

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  • Both the SNP and the Greens have been infiltrated by extremists who's priority is NOT Scottish independence. 

  • Don't the SNP and Green's want independence? I thought they'd been collaborating in Scotland for a while?

  • If the Act of Union, isn't a union and Scotland and England were were disolved into part of a new country, then how come Scot's law still applies and Scotland has a different education system to England and Wales? How come it's banks are allowed to issue currency and yet Banks in England or Wales aren't?

    I’m simply stating facts: the English and Scottish parliaments each passed an act of union which dissolved the previous countries. The UK is a unitary state with a single sovereign parliament. The UK only has a single currency, which is controlled by the Bank of England.

    There was a referendum and people did narrowly chose to remain joined, but after Brexit the terms that, that referendum were fought on and promises made were overturned 2 years later. The fact that the Scotish Parliament has to ask permission from Westminster to hold another referendum tells me that the union isn't between equals and that Scotland, like Wales was subsummed by England. 

    20% more people voted No than Yes and in all the years since there has never been any kind of election in which the majority voted for parties with independence in their manifestos.

  • If the Act of Union, isn't a union and Scotland and England were were disolved into part of a new country, then how come Scot's law still applies and Scotland has a different education system to England and Wales? How come it's banks are allowed to issue currency and yet Banks in England or Wales aren't?

    There was a referendum and people did narrowly chose to remain joined, but after Brexit the terms that, that referendum were fought on and promises made were overturned 2 years later. The fact that the Scotish Parliament has to ask permission from Westminster to hold another referendum tells me that the union isn't between equals and that Scotland, like Wales was subsummed by England.  

    I don't have any particular axe to grind about Scottish independence, or Welsh for that matter, but I do think the current situation is unsustainable and the obvious answer is to federalise

    ********************************************

    Now Israel have decided to bomb Iran and Trump seems unable to decide who's side he's on, does he really want more talks or does he want to support Israel, because I don't seen how he can do both or be considered an honest broker?

    It seems there are radiation leaks around the bunker Israel hit. That will be a disaster not just for the region, but for all of us, it will mean more refugees, less safe food and water, less habitable land and the possibility of escalation.