In case anyone would like to read the Government's Green Paper with full details of the proposed changes (rather than relying only on media reports), it can be found here:
In case anyone would like to read the Government's Green Paper with full details of the proposed changes (rather than relying only on media reports), it can be found here:
No idea. All feels scarily vague, and in the meantime all we get are condescending analogies about 'stopping a child's pocket money so they understand the value of a Saturday job' from that MP who was doing the rounds all day yesterday exhibiting the empathy levels of a brick.
This is one of their objectives in the Green Paper:
"Restoring trust and fairness in the system by fixing the broken assessment process that drives people into dependency on welfare."
I don't know how this is going to work. I had to submit pip review forms in May. I had a letter around Christmas time to say that they were giving themselves until December 2025 to reach a decision. And today I had a text saying that they are now looking at my case. This has taken 10 months. Have they got the staff to carry out more frequent reviews ? How much is it going to cost to employ more assessors ?
Thanks for the link. Good to have a laugh at times like today. Horrifying.
Polotics just keeps going around in circles so we can keep recyeling the same jokes. https://youtu.be/BI7fudmO7FY
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj924xvzrr2o
'The government plans more frequent reassessments' - this is frustratingly broad, does it mean that someone who thought they had five years for instance now be told they have to report to some 'big doctor' six months from now instead?
Bit confused - did today change things further? A government dude I just heard interviwed on the BBC appeared to say that everyone on PIP will be forced to go to a Doctor's appointment for reassessment... no timeline for that, but being the pessimist I am about this stuff it does make me fear that whatever time we thought we had left in our current award period might be cut short as soon as there's a summons to whoever the interview is with? Presumably it's not a GP with some capacity for empathy but rather someone more like a one-person equivalent of those humiliating tribunal panels?
I am wondering where these employers are that will take people to try work.
I am also wondering how my autistic/ ADHD son will manage when he reaches employment age in less than two years. He currently needs a lot of support to manage college and won't tend to ask for help from any adults other than his parents. He often won't admit when he needs help either. I am wondering how he will manage to apply for jobs or even sign on. I am not even sure what work he would manage to do.
Well I thought it would be worse to be honest, I'm still not happy about the whole thing though, I don't qualify for PIP as I can do too much. I think the option to try working and not losing benefits if you can't manage it is a good idea in theory, but how it would work in practice will probably be another matter altogether.
I think it will still have several stages to go through before it can be put into practice.
Yes - good choice of words Shardovan: ‘brutalising and dehumanising system’ - just so. We have no choice essentially to live in the system that they’ve created. Autistic people often can’t thrive in this system - and because of this we struggle to get paid work that is not damaging to our mental health. Consequently we are often forced into a position where we have no option to claim benefits of various kinds. We have NO CHOICE but to claim SOMETHING - because the capitalist system is constantly demanding money from us: huge amounts of money for rent, food, heating etc etc - basics that we simply cannot live without. And then the Govt portrays us a lazy work- shy scroungers?! It IS brutalising and dehumanising. We have to spend hours and hours filling out forms about the most intimate and embarrassing aspects of our lives - just to be questioned on them and judged and doubted. And then often don’t get awarded PIP anyway. And now this lousy govt want to make the whole thing even harder?! It’s immoral and unethical and discriminatory. I’m so sorry everyone - none of us deserve this disgusting treatment from the Government.
Someone in the Commons session did stand up and ask on Scotland's behalf about this, but it was framed in terms of 'will there be consultation/advice...?' which to me implied acknowledgement of near-inevitable alignment, though I could be wrong as I'm not very good at understanding the Westminster lingo.
What does this mean for Scotland as PIP is now Adult Disability Payment and is a devolved benefit. The amalgamation of JSA and ESA is reserved so who knows what system Scotland will follow. 2 different assessments?
Worrying and very very confusing
Thanks, Bunny. "This means that people who only score the lowest points on each of the PIP daily living activities will lose their entitlement in future." I wonder what 'in the future' means here? 2028 as Inglewood believed they heard, or will it be an immediate suspension once passed, even for those (with just 2s etc. in each category) who thought they had some time to try and save for the coming hardship.
Also, 'we will not be consulting on this' makes it seem like it's set and no disability advocate group will change their minds or intention.
I thought she said 2026? Maybe implying that many people's current 5 years or whatever would be terminated early? 2028 was mentioned too though, so maybe I just got confused. This can lead nowhere good in an already brutalising and dehumanised system for meeting a threshold they've made very difficult to reach.
Sounds very scary for many. I posted this earlier in the general PIP thread, so admit to being just as confused... "Listening to the House of Commons announcement of benefits reform, and it's just been confirmed (if I haven't misunderstood) that scoring a minimum of 4 points in at least one PIP category will be the new standard as of next year. Does that mean that anyone who, prior to today, scored several 2s (for instance) will have their present PIP stopped prematurely? Bit confused by the implications. "
Just listened to the statment from the Government, and as far as I can work out you need to score 4 points in Daily Living to qualify for PIP from 2028, but it is currently set at 8 points minimum?
But Universal Credit is to be changed for LCW part.
Am I correct in thinking this?
