‘Economically inactive’ and stats confusion

As sometimes happens to me, a chance comment today  got me dwelling in a fixated way on statistics and trying to get a clear perspective on how they align with, deviate from, absorb, or exclude level one (‘high functioning’) autistics. 

Basicslly it concerns who in the population is not working, how voluntary or involuntary that is, where there might be complexities of overlap between ‘I’m not up to that but even if I was I wouldn’t want to’ etc. And initially I incorrectly assumed the small collective figure for all these people to be the 4% stated to be UK unemployed. 

However, I soon discovered that ‘economically inactive’ (a term I’d somehow never heard before now) more accurately covers what I was after, and it seems that that’s about a quarter of working-age (post-16, pre-retirement) population on average. So of course my next question was ‘how are the high functioning autistics scattered through the sub-groups in this overall figure?’ Most specifically within the complicated dynamic infographic in this: [sorry the site won’t let me paste but the article and infographic are called ‘who are the millions of Britons not working’ and is on the BBC news site. ] Are economically inactive  autistics exclusively  within ‘other’ (seems a very small subset of overall EEs if so) and if not then have they been lumped in unhelpfully with ’sick’ (because of what NTs would call co-morbidities)? Or is there diffuse scatter throughout with no chance of emerging into any clear subset of its own? Finally, and crucially, any anecdotal stuff in this thread (as well as thoughts on the actual stats) would help me gauge a little better what the overall situation is. I work, full time, in one of a very few jobs I’d ever have managed that in without burnout or breakdown. And I assume that the supposed 15%-25% I notionally belong to for employed autistic level ones still applies? Thanks for helping me through this bout of hyper focus, should you choose to add a comment! 

  • I understand the data used for inactivity is taken frim the ONS Labour Force Survey. It is of dubious accuracy currently due to low response rates. However, worth a look if you haven't already:

     https://www.beta.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/employmentintheuk/february2025

    I don't think you're going to be able to get detailed information that answers your questions. So far as I can tell you'd need to overlay NHS records of diagnoses with the ONS Labour Force Survey sample results to pot all those diagnosed autistic into each LFS category. NHS records could only be mapped with participants permission and the LFS is anonymised so I don't think it would ever be possible. Sickness can be divided up into condition based on broad definitions - so musculoskeletal, mental health etc. but I've never seen "autism" as a category, probably because there's a broad spectrum and being autistic isn't a reason for not being able to work for everyone diagnosed. I'm not sure of the details though.

    Happy to be proved wrong on any of this as I'm not an expert, but am interested in a non-hyperfixated way.

  • I don't really understand your question.

    But I do know that the numbers of economically inactive adults went up after covid, I think many older people decided to cash in their pensions, move closer to friends and family and live a bit more simply.

    I don't know how any of this relates to autistic people.

  • Last effort 'bump' 4 months on, as for reasons I'm too tired to go into tonight, I've become very hyperfocused on the question again. Mind you, the torturous way I've constructed my original question/musing oughtn't to leave me too surprised that nobody else joined in! I suppose I'm having one of those 'how anomalous am I in my unique autistic experience' moments again... and getting the wisdom of those with talent enough to pull all the numbers together in an alchemical  'unified theory of everything' kind of way would help settle my mind considerably. To bring it down to its simplest foundations here, is that '3 in 10 only' employment stats for autistics inclusive of autism levels 1, 2 and 3. If so, what can be deduced about the stat for 'aspergers' (outmoded term I know) specifically. I'd assume the stat for that group is higher, but by how much? Intuitively, I feel that for the 'high functioning' it's got to be around 5 or 6/I0 for full/part time combined (especially factoring in the workplace-'functioning' undiagnosed). I seem to be cursed with a stat-obsessed mind but no mathematical skills to help me get closure or a better overview. Any help from those with number skills and the ability to innately synthesise mental pie charts about this stuff will be much welcomed, ta!  

  • Just a wee bump as I posted this at a time when the forum is largely asleep. Also, I can now add the link which the forum last night did not permit www.bbc.co.uk/.../business-52660591