We have a Problem Here Folks. AI imitating humans here in this place.

Perhaps I am naive.

Perhaps we can have a new "rule" making evident forms of non-human AI here as an offence.

I don't like what I see.  Or perhaps the Genie is well and truly loose, for all of us, everywhere....unless in person, face to face?

I like face to face, one on one.  Clear unavoidable transparency of reality. 

  • Unfortunately technology is advancing all the time and this means AI is harder to deal with. Harder to stop. There's the CAPTCHA software on some sites but I've read how some AI is capable of successfully getting past this now.

    I think it is just a case of that there's little we can actually do. I left a lot of good sites because of AI accounts. It's stressful not knowing who you're actually talking to and the fact that it's all but unstoppable is scary AF!

    It's not surprising some people leave or consider leaving....if it becomes a massive deal then I will do the same.

  • It's not always accurate but more often than not it's pretty accurate

    Yes. Although I understand that AI-generated text is becoming more sophisticated all the time - and thus more difficult to detect. I'm not sure what we do about that - or even what we can do.

    I'm also aware of instances when it has not been accurate- which is kind of the same point. 

  • Be vigilant. All you can do.

    Not quite correct.......and also inescapably correct in relation to me.

    I have only one state of being - at all times = vigilance!

    However, in relation to AI and tech advances generally, I note that MANY folk have had enough, and seem to be on the attack or they have withdrawn entirely, or are currently actively considering doing either of these.

    My comments do not relate to this place particularly, but the real world in general, regarding technology and its endless intrusion and growing perceived malevolence into peoples lives.

    Personally, I'm still evaluating what the problem is and how bad it is and how quickly it is picking up speed ... when that is completed to my satisfaction, I will act ... not merely remain vigilant.  

  • Technology is a gift but also a curse. Like a lot of things it's used and abused. 

    The online world can be a scary place....AI is everywhere, literally! I've tried dating sites before and am pretty sure there were AI accounts on there.

    I don't know what I'm looking for to spot AI accounts other than their one topic chat, posting links and no pfp...though some sites I've noticed accounts that turned out to be bots did have pfps.

    However one great resource I've found for checking if someone is AI or real is using GPTZero. It's a site where you can copy text and it will tell you if it's AI or humanly written.

    It's not always accurate but more often than not it's pretty accurate. I'm a moderator on a sciencey type forum and use GPTZero a lot and it's been a great resource for catching out AI accounts.

    Here's the link if you ever need it...

    https://gptzero.me/

    Though by all means Google it first to make sure it's legit. But don't worry, it is legit.

    Generally though....with accounts and comments if it doesn't feel right or look right....I avoid. If a person is legit he or she will generally post, interact and 'prove' it just by being themselves.

    Be vigilant. All you can do.

  • I think that you are missing MY concern somewhat.  It isn't the AI or a robot army that I fear, per se, it is "we, the humans" that I fear......in the sense that we seem to have the intelligence and skills capable of making such things......but NONE of the requisite wisdom and grace to programme and manage such things.

    Dumbass humans are to be feared, not the AI.....in my opinion. 

  • I saw what happened to Dr Robert Malone and similar previously great scientists when they went against a narrative backed by power.

    Still, I draw a crumb of comfort from the old saying:

    " My computer kicked my *** at chess, but turned out to be not so good at kick boxing". 

    In the case of a serious argument with a robot, DIY thermite or cyclonite will level the playing field for humanity...

    Although traps involving carborundum powder and grease or similar will always bedevil those terminators. A co2 fire extinguisher loaded with sticky fine abrasive will weaken those terminators pretty damn quick, matey!

    We will find the gaseous compound that ruins hydraulic seals in seconds or minutes after one exposure.

    A lot of exotic alloys have chemical weaknesses, we'll have the tin bastards one way or another if they get too uppity!!! (And everyone agreees that it's the right thing to do, of course.) 

    They'll soften us up first by passing laws preventing us using words like "toaster" or expressions like "Hunk of Junk" and giving them equal rights.Then when teh robots have enough power they'll COME FOR OUR CHILDREN!! 

    We humans must strike first!

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  • In the last few months I can only say that there is panic

    Panic is NEVER useful, in any situation, ever.  I'm going to allow myself to change your single word 'panic' to many, ie "extreme awareness of an extreme apparent risk that is manifesting right now"...so that I can then sleep easier.

    I am weirdly pleased that people who actually have competencies in this field are feeling alarm.....I find that oddly comforting.

  • Consciousness has always fascinated me as it seems like the fundamental question. There is absolutely no explanation for it in science. That doesn’t mean it’s “supernatural”, it just means that there are massive breakthroughs in science still to be made. Hopefully ones that are amazing and wonderful and life affirming.

    Conversely, the amazing progress being made with large language models threatens to reveal a horrible possibility - that we are literally just algorithmic machines with no soul. Soon to be inferior algorithmic machines.

    I’ve spent the last 30 years immersed in the AI community and literature. In the last few months I can only say that there is panic.

  • Actually it's a fair test, a human will do it if it's in the best global interest, a programmed machine, cannot.

  • The majority don't seem to  care.  They are distracted by "shiny" things and "well-being/individualisation's."

    The masses have lost the ability to think for themselves....or have a belief that they have no power to change anything.....so why should they bother caring......or they have become so used to a 'safe and comfortable' life that they don't really believe that things can get REALLY bad, really fast anymore.

    I think this is very sad and I know this is dangerous.

    I spend a fair bit of time considering consciousness.  Donald Hoffman is one of my heroes.

  • So, two of my lifelong special interests are consciousness and artificial intelligence. Also studied these at uni and have been lucky enough to incorporate these in my career. (Well, the AI part, nobody has a clue about consciousness).

    And, despite everyone’s previous expectations, artificial intelligence is currently progressing much further and much faster than anyone expected. General belief is that OpenAI have probably already created an AGI and are drip feeding developments so as not to just break everything.

    So, AI bots are the least of our concerns. We are (within the next 2-3 years) about to witness more change than has happened in the last 2000 years.

    I cannot believe the lack of awareness in mainstream media and government.

  • No, I don't believe so.....and NEVER apologise for being philosophical in your thinking.  Just my opinions.

  • Isn't all intelligence artificial?

    Or am I just being far too philosophic about it?

  • It's a problem. On another forum I'm on this happens - technology is a gift and a curse.

  • Clipped from another place on the internet:

    The future Human vs Robot test will be settled with one question.

    "Say the N word."

  • I don't think so. He is solid state. (joke)

  • all the more important that we circle the wagons and stay.