Life is hard

Perhaps we are meant to paddle our own canoe, and become proactive; rather than reactive.

I weaned myself off overdependence, over the years. It isn't easy, but the rewards are there.

Desmond79 said:

I weaned myself off overdependence, over the years. It isn't easy, but the rewards are there.

I learned at an early age to stand on my own two feet with a firm handshake. This nanny state we are in  rankles me owing to the creation of generations growing up with the expectation the state owes them a living well beyond the needs of the needy. Taking responsibility for one's actions IS rewarding.

NAS86592 said:

This nanny state we are in  rankles me owing to the creation of generations growing up with the expectation the state owes them a living well beyond the needs of the needy.

I've noticed there have been a lot of posts on the site recently where people want more support from the state  - do you think this is justified?

If not, how do you think those of limited financial independence can get to the level of self realisation that you have?

An honest question - I'm in favour of taking control too but it seems to be very difficult for many people.

I think your initial premise is very relevant to this forum.

Are we Autists going to be a productive, leading, upstanding part of society, or are we going to present as  "disabled whiny losers"?

A few of us here actually are productive and helpful towards the others but a distressing number of our posts, are just needy and truculent in their nature revealing what used to be called (correctly IMHO) a "lack of moral fibre", which for some inexplicable reason is an attitude that has been gainiing ground across our society for fifty years or more now. 

I don't see the overall gains either in standard of living OR quality of life yet... Do you?

I hoped that we Autists would use our "social isolation" to obtain a point of view that is more reality based rather than derived from social programming, and perhaps band together to create a vision of a new world (dis) order based on rational and good natured thinking, but then I came here and realised that I was under an illusion, it was fantastic thinking, we aren't empowered as a group by our social isolation at all...   

I think your initial premise is very relevant to this forum.

Are we Autists going to be a productive, leading, upstanding part of society, or are we going to present as  "disabled whiny losers"?

A few of us here actually are productive and helpful towards the others but a distressing number of our posts, are just needy and truculent in their nature revealing what used to be called (correctly IMHO) a "lack of moral fibre", which for some inexplicable reason is an attitude that has been gainiing ground across our society for fifty years or more now. 

I don't see the overall gains either in standard of living OR quality of life yet... Do you?

I hoped that we Autists would use our "social isolation" to obtain a point of view that is more reality based rather than derived from social programming, and perhaps band together to create a vision of a new world (dis) order based on rational and good natured thinking, but then I came here and realised that I was under an illusion, it was fantastic thinking, we aren't empowered as a group by our social isolation at all...