Universal Basic income

Don't know how many of you have heard about the small trial of this? Its only a few people but they are given a no questions asked payment of £1600pm for two years on the trial. 

I am sure I am not the old one whi thinks this would massivley change their life? I work 38 hours a week and only take home about £1850pm, and every one of those hours is a total slog and a battle againt ASD. I would take 6 months-1 year off and then probably do some voulenteer work doing something I love. Sadly I can't see it coming in any time soon but his would be a game changer for anybody with mental heath issues and physical disabilities. Of course that works as long as there is not massive inflation to go with it and prices remain stable.

What are your thoughts?

Rob

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  • It sounds like an amazing idea, especially for people like us that struggle with work. Work has been the primary cause of my destress and mental health damage for years so you would think I would welcome this but I dont. 

    First of all, if something sounds too good to be true it probably is. If the government were to give us something for free then we have to ask ourselves why? Governments never do anything out of the goodness of their hearts. Everything they offer us is used to control us more and make us more dependent on them. 

    The reality of UBI is it would simply be another way to make us more depended on the government than we already are. Some people on here have mentioned how it could be used when jobs are replaced with AI and this is a good point. It is also something that could be taken away in the future if we oppose or displease the government. If you think this is far fetched conspiracy theroy then take a look at what happened in Canada during the pandemic. People who supported and donated to anti lockdown organisations and protests had their bank accounts frozen by PM Justin Trudeu. In one case, a single mother who donated £10 had her account frozen by the Canadian government. 

    The other thing I would ask is where does the money for this come from? According to the last census there were 37.5 million adults of working age in the UK. If each of these were given £1,600 per month that would work out as 7 billion, 104 million pounds per year. The government doesnt have any money of its own, all of its money comes from taxpayers so one has to question how on earth this would be financed. I would imagine it probably couldnt be.

    Its a wonderful idea, I am currently going through hell with my job as my previous posts have said and would love to know I had UBI coming in even if I couldnt work but I fear the freedoms we would give up are not a price worth paying as well as the fact that the money to finance it simply doesnt exist 

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  • It sounds like an amazing idea, especially for people like us that struggle with work. Work has been the primary cause of my destress and mental health damage for years so you would think I would welcome this but I dont. 

    First of all, if something sounds too good to be true it probably is. If the government were to give us something for free then we have to ask ourselves why? Governments never do anything out of the goodness of their hearts. Everything they offer us is used to control us more and make us more dependent on them. 

    The reality of UBI is it would simply be another way to make us more depended on the government than we already are. Some people on here have mentioned how it could be used when jobs are replaced with AI and this is a good point. It is also something that could be taken away in the future if we oppose or displease the government. If you think this is far fetched conspiracy theroy then take a look at what happened in Canada during the pandemic. People who supported and donated to anti lockdown organisations and protests had their bank accounts frozen by PM Justin Trudeu. In one case, a single mother who donated £10 had her account frozen by the Canadian government. 

    The other thing I would ask is where does the money for this come from? According to the last census there were 37.5 million adults of working age in the UK. If each of these were given £1,600 per month that would work out as 7 billion, 104 million pounds per year. The government doesnt have any money of its own, all of its money comes from taxpayers so one has to question how on earth this would be financed. I would imagine it probably couldnt be.

    Its a wonderful idea, I am currently going through hell with my job as my previous posts have said and would love to know I had UBI coming in even if I couldnt work but I fear the freedoms we would give up are not a price worth paying as well as the fact that the money to finance it simply doesnt exist 

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  • I have heard about UBI in the context of the Great Reset and Agenda 2030 and so I share your concerns - based on simple common sense, there is no doubt that during Covid, the WEF and the world bank were funding the benefits systems and day-to-day running and public services of many countries globally to make up for the shortfall in tax revenues received (or otherwise) during lockdown, which also partly explains the managed collapse of the U.K. economy afterwards - I too am very suspicious of even a trial run of UBI and I am wondering where the “catch” is