Pronouns Understanding

Hello Everyone

I am not sure if I am venting out or in SERIOUS need of advice!

Here in the twenty-first century, we are lucky to be a community that is constantly connected (here aren't we all?:))  But for the last few years, people have started to use pronouns to present themselves, in the gender that they please. And I thought: "That's great! People get to choose what they want, be open to a community, not be offended, feel free, and perhaps worst cases not feel accepted but at the very least like themselves! What could go wrong?" I thought 

Until my family came along...

Do you know in "An Inspector Calls"? "We tend to have a great influence on the youngest generation"? Or something close to that. That's basically how I feel.

My family, parents and siblings, all agree that pronouns are dangerous. And with the arguments that they bring it's difficult not to agree. The psychological effect on the youngest, the dangers to females, the censorship of some words, the audacity that some Woke (not all, I know please, it's example) believe that white people owe to the black, Asians and other races for generations of discrimination and must (you guess) pay to be repented for their ancestors' sins. (*shakes head uncomfortably) That sounds like a cult at this point. Or if we have to go back on the subject: the pressure that is put at work to create a "diversity-free" environment actually closes other people to say: "No, I don't agree." Because if you do: You're racist! So there is no choice!

When you hear that, every day, every time your sibling calls and describes how the choice of a little girl deciding to use the pronouns "cat", and so the little girl, believes that she is a cat! Of course, it's worrying, but at the same time, maybe my sibling is making a bit too much of a deal out of this than it should be!

I tried to tell them: "Hey! Can we talk about something else?" because, in all honesty, yes, there are things I agree with them, like the censorship of words, but their constant opinion is destroying my ability to create my own opinion about this whole mess! But no: they must vent out because their daily obligation is driving them crazy! I hate it! Some of you may recognise me because I expressed my discontent about pronouns and the psychological danger I expressed, but to be very honest I DON'T KNOW! This is driving me crazy, I can't talk to them without them seeing positively this whole thing! That it's people's choices and that things can be resolved if we are all careful! I know this is an autistic reserved account... but... PLEASE help me understand in a non-bias way.

(And on that note, I have NO issue with my gender identity!)

Parents
  • i think you got it down pretty well tbh.

    the woke stuff is like a cult as you said... i often describe it as a religion, you got the thinking they are sinners thing down right, and thats why i call it a new religion. and we have made the mistake of religion before and i think were making it all over again in this form and it will result in persecution and dark ages and deaths and witch hunts.

    as for the kid identifying as a cat... that shows they are too young to understand the topic. they failed to understand what gender is, and instead wanted to play make believe like a kid does and wanted to roleplay a cat.... we all did this, it was just role play, it never was gender or a pronoun until this invasive ideology came in and inserted itself and claimed that a kids playful imagination and roleplaying was them picking a gender... it never was.... otherwise my gender would have been a power ranger... or a pokemon...

  • then imagine, you take your kids roleplay and imaginative play.... you see them pretending to be a cat... then you confused them and made them think thats their pronoun or gender and their identity, when the kid doesnt know what any of that means and is just pretending to be a cat and playing for all it knows as we all did... then you take that and then force surgery onto them to surgically give them cat appearance...thinking they wanted that and they identified as that forever... instead of it just being a temporary kid playing a imaginative game... you the ruined the kids entire life over their mindless imaginative kid game, kids being kids that you a adult took too far and then interfered with and gave them surgery over... its child cruelty and these people shouldnt be allowed anywhere near kids nor should they be allowed any guardianship or responsibly over kids if they make these decisions for them without realising it is just regular imaginative roleplay at that age

  • When you say "at that age," what kind of age are you imagining, ma'am?

  • Yh honestly it could be good for you to go back, get your GCSEs up to Cs and then get into a course (maybe vocational even) in something you are interested in, special interests become strengths in further education, then use it as a spring board to find work in that field if you want. If you (the royal you) are unemployed or low income  rn they also do a means based thing to reduce fees, sometimes you can get teh gov to pay for them in special circumstances, or apply for student finance which you don't have to pay back if you never earn over a threshold anyway, and even if you do earn more you'll only pay a percentage back that will be written off once you hit retirement age anyway.

  • well at first i isolated myself from the world, i had no motivatin to do anything. although i took up fitness and martial arts later on in my mid 20s and from there i guess developed a no quitting mindset of self development. and now after the covid crap i managed to get a job and a flat that i own and now have a independent life on my own and am seemingly all set now. so it all worked out in the end. 

    but i could probably redo my gcse's then as my grades really sucked as at the end point of high school i was already into no motivation and a really strong giving up quitter mindset which just made me throw my gcse's and not be bothered by them. tbh given i spent like 16 years not working due to it i guess society owes me reparations of 16 years of lost income and career progression too thinking on that lol

  • Sounds like we went to the same school honestly.

    I'll just throw this out there then in case you weren't already aware of it, but if your gcse grades suffered any because of the bullying you can enrol to retake them with colleges as an adult if you want, it's a much better experience going back as a mature student because everyone in the class wants to be there.

    but it hit me that no one cares and people wanted me to die,

    So did you do the same thing I did after that? Because it hardened me, I became beligerant to go on and have a good life regardless of them.

  • aye we have more autonomy and freedom as adults though, if i were free to chose in high school id have stayed out of high school and my experiences there probably part influenced me to shut myself in my room for years after it when i left high school and decided to do nothing at all.

    and yeah highschool kids likely would murder people in their bullying, happens all the time. i remember someone at my highschool got set on fire with deodrant and a lighter not as part of targeted bullying against them... but just chav kids "having a laugh" their laugh is to set people on fire, and thats not even a targeted effort bullying thats just a random laugh to them.

    i think i became numb to physical stuff so physical stuff didnt bother me much, but yet my thoughts and emotions were perhaps most vulnerable so the thoughts of what others do and say kinda hurt me more than any physical attack. such as when someone told me to die in a ditch when i was in class and everyone just laughed, my mind wasnt ready or stable enough for that and perhaps did want to die in a ditch, but it hit me that no one cares and people wanted me to die, that hit my thoughts and emotions stronger than any punch could.

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  • aye we have more autonomy and freedom as adults though, if i were free to chose in high school id have stayed out of high school and my experiences there probably part influenced me to shut myself in my room for years after it when i left high school and decided to do nothing at all.

    and yeah highschool kids likely would murder people in their bullying, happens all the time. i remember someone at my highschool got set on fire with deodrant and a lighter not as part of targeted bullying against them... but just chav kids "having a laugh" their laugh is to set people on fire, and thats not even a targeted effort bullying thats just a random laugh to them.

    i think i became numb to physical stuff so physical stuff didnt bother me much, but yet my thoughts and emotions were perhaps most vulnerable so the thoughts of what others do and say kinda hurt me more than any physical attack. such as when someone told me to die in a ditch when i was in class and everyone just laughed, my mind wasnt ready or stable enough for that and perhaps did want to die in a ditch, but it hit me that no one cares and people wanted me to die, that hit my thoughts and emotions stronger than any punch could.

Children
  • Yh honestly it could be good for you to go back, get your GCSEs up to Cs and then get into a course (maybe vocational even) in something you are interested in, special interests become strengths in further education, then use it as a spring board to find work in that field if you want. If you (the royal you) are unemployed or low income  rn they also do a means based thing to reduce fees, sometimes you can get teh gov to pay for them in special circumstances, or apply for student finance which you don't have to pay back if you never earn over a threshold anyway, and even if you do earn more you'll only pay a percentage back that will be written off once you hit retirement age anyway.

  • well at first i isolated myself from the world, i had no motivatin to do anything. although i took up fitness and martial arts later on in my mid 20s and from there i guess developed a no quitting mindset of self development. and now after the covid crap i managed to get a job and a flat that i own and now have a independent life on my own and am seemingly all set now. so it all worked out in the end. 

    but i could probably redo my gcse's then as my grades really sucked as at the end point of high school i was already into no motivation and a really strong giving up quitter mindset which just made me throw my gcse's and not be bothered by them. tbh given i spent like 16 years not working due to it i guess society owes me reparations of 16 years of lost income and career progression too thinking on that lol

  • Sounds like we went to the same school honestly.

    I'll just throw this out there then in case you weren't already aware of it, but if your gcse grades suffered any because of the bullying you can enrol to retake them with colleges as an adult if you want, it's a much better experience going back as a mature student because everyone in the class wants to be there.

    but it hit me that no one cares and people wanted me to die,

    So did you do the same thing I did after that? Because it hardened me, I became beligerant to go on and have a good life regardless of them.