Why there is a great amount of nonsense on ASD

By its very nature spectral disorder is impossible to categorize because it is subjective to such wide variation.  A diagnosis of ASD is not chiselled in stone as the final word. Such a diagnosis has been determined through an analysis based on a criterion of fundamental symptoms characterising non-specific generality of ASD. Yet many view their diagnosis as their "bible" for justification of complexed actions that may involve and interplay with other complexed mental/physiological issues they may have.  Autism is and will remain a proper mobius puzzle until the human brain's workings can be entirely understood. But yet we often allow ourselves to be misled by false "priests" of this topic who sound as though they know what they are saying as truths. It's a non-specific spectral disorder--lets not forget that and lets dispense with their gobbledygook on this topic. I do however disagree with the term "Disorder" while the question is often asked "what is normal". People with ASD are a minority but why should that be classed a disorder? Is it any more a disorder to be part of an ethnic minority? 

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Parents

  • By its very nature spectral disorder is impossible to categorize because it is subjective to such wide variation. 

    It is impossible to categorize spectrum disorders as being anything other than a broad range of character trait presentations, hence Dr Stephen Shore’s expression, "When you meet one person with Autism, you've met one person with Autism.”


    A diagnosis of ASD is not chiselled in stone as the final word.

    The final word on what contextually?


    Such a diagnosis has been determined through an analysis based on a criterion of fundamental symptoms characterising non-specific generality of ASD. Yet many view their diagnosis as their "bible" for justification of complexed actions that may involve and interplay with other complexed mental/physiological issues they may have. 

    Learning the difference between autistic traits and co-morbid symptoms can be difficult to separate out for some, particularly as autistic people are more prone to particular varieties of co-morbid conditions than is the case for the general public ~ such as for example anxiety, digestive problems, sleep disorders and autoimmune complications on account of higher cortisol and adrenaline levels.


    Autism is and will remain a proper mobius puzzle until the human brain's workings can be entirely understood. But yet we often allow ourselves to be misled by false "priests" of this topic who sound as though they know what they are saying as truths. It's a non-specific spectral disorder--lets not forget that and lets dispense with their gobbledygook on this topic.

    ‘All or nothing’ / ‘one size fits all’ conceptualisation can be a problem for some after a life-time of having been oppressively facilitated, identified and affirmed in regard to their autistic individuality, especially when they have not had much or even any comparative or relative experience beyond that of their own.


    I do however disagree with the term "Disorder" while the question is often asked "what is normal". People with ASD are a minority but why should that be classed a disorder? Is it any more a disorder to be part of an ethnic minority? 


    Autistic Spectrum Condition/s (ASC) has as such become more the standard definition / acronym these days.


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  • By its very nature spectral disorder is impossible to categorize because it is subjective to such wide variation. 

    It is impossible to categorize spectrum disorders as being anything other than a broad range of character trait presentations, hence Dr Stephen Shore’s expression, "When you meet one person with Autism, you've met one person with Autism.”


    A diagnosis of ASD is not chiselled in stone as the final word.

    The final word on what contextually?


    Such a diagnosis has been determined through an analysis based on a criterion of fundamental symptoms characterising non-specific generality of ASD. Yet many view their diagnosis as their "bible" for justification of complexed actions that may involve and interplay with other complexed mental/physiological issues they may have. 

    Learning the difference between autistic traits and co-morbid symptoms can be difficult to separate out for some, particularly as autistic people are more prone to particular varieties of co-morbid conditions than is the case for the general public ~ such as for example anxiety, digestive problems, sleep disorders and autoimmune complications on account of higher cortisol and adrenaline levels.


    Autism is and will remain a proper mobius puzzle until the human brain's workings can be entirely understood. But yet we often allow ourselves to be misled by false "priests" of this topic who sound as though they know what they are saying as truths. It's a non-specific spectral disorder--lets not forget that and lets dispense with their gobbledygook on this topic.

    ‘All or nothing’ / ‘one size fits all’ conceptualisation can be a problem for some after a life-time of having been oppressively facilitated, identified and affirmed in regard to their autistic individuality, especially when they have not had much or even any comparative or relative experience beyond that of their own.


    I do however disagree with the term "Disorder" while the question is often asked "what is normal". People with ASD are a minority but why should that be classed a disorder? Is it any more a disorder to be part of an ethnic minority? 


    Autistic Spectrum Condition/s (ASC) has as such become more the standard definition / acronym these days.


Children
  • Reverse order response.  My own autism assessment is dated 22 April 2022 and is clearly headed "Assessment of Spectrum Disorder Summery Report"

     All this nit picking on this topic with gobbledygook thrown in may satisfy the needs of its originators but will only add further confusion to an already confused and complex matter.  It's all too easy to jump to "conclusions" based on one's own availability of interpretational biases, supported by an understanding of ASD from anecdotes, or a loose subjective analysis without solid evidence. This whole topic by its nature is very fuzzy. At my age of 77 I fit your description " having not had much or even any comparative or relative experience beyond that of their own" with regard to my autism. I don't think nit picking descriptions of this fuzzy topic are generally helpful.

    You sound like my GP.  There you go based on your own biases assuming stress levels experienced by the general public are less frequent to produce higher cortisol and adrenaline levels. There can be many people who are not autistic while experiencing high stress levels frequently.  It's these sorts of assumption that causes confusion leading to conclusions without proof.

    "It is impossible to categorize spectrum disorders as being anything other than a broad range of character trait presentations, hence Dr Stephen Shore’s expression, "When you meet one person with Autism, you've met one person with Autism" --- agreed