What am i ?

I am a 55 year old married man and have been seeing a therapist for anxiety for about 6 months. After about 10 hours of CBT was suggested that I may have ADHD. So after lots of form filling i went off for "the test" with my sister so they could establish any developmental link. After an hour the doctor informally diagnosed me with ASD Level 1 or Aspergers. Im fine with that, but i feel it doesnt completely fit.

I have a few friends with Aspergers. None of them understand my nuanced jokes. My sarcasm (default mode for me) never gets picked up either by them. Unfortunately im usually the one explaining/ruining the nuanced/sarcastic joke to my ASD friends. I dont typically miss subtle social cues either and can read facial expressions at a glimpse. Idioms like through the baby out with the bathwater never annoy or confuse me either. I did the online Autism Spectrum Quotient (AQ) test and got 17. However I have always had a stutter and get overwhelmed very easily.

Masking as a life long stutterer is second nature to me. I have stims and usually hide them. I have spent my whole life trying to appear fluent, but feel that im always put in the 'weird' category.

Does the stutter tick the communication box of a ASD diagnosis. Can someone mask so much that they can teach themselves nuance and facial expressions OR

Is it possible for someone to have ASD, but not display any of these subtle comprehension problems ?

Please dont hold back. I dont offend easily. The earliest appointment with my therapist is 4 weeks away and i dont know who else to ask.

Parents
  • Being conscious of social nuances and making the conscious effort to fit in, understand, communicate is - from my understanding - one thing which marks an Autistic brain. There are some sayings which make sense because they're sensible. I can genuinely say when I was 15 and told I couldn't see the forest for the trees, I didn't even know that I didn't know how confusing that statement was. I was so far removed from understanding I didn't understand that I wasn't even prompted to work out what my instructor was 'suggesting'. 

    NeuroTypical individuals have these "Defence Mechanisms" which originally were thought of as 'encoding' from society. Their Nature is designed to be Nurtured a particular way. And so through language, they are able to integrate these encodings because that's how their asymmetrical brains are wired. So, there will rarely occur a prompt that something is getting lost in translation. What's more, they can seamlessly 'mature' through a mechanism called Sublimation, where some things you've mentioned never need to happen on a conscious level. Communication almost always feels fluid. Language is fluid. It's REALLY odd when someone doesn't understand what they're communicating and so, The Double Empathy Problem. 

    Some of us spend a little more time and work studying matters of communication - especially when the confusion is severe or, in your case, there is a noticeable stutter. As I've become more aware of my communication deficit with neurotypicals, I occasionally stutter. Before I 'woke up' to just how confused and in a haze I was, my timing was terrible, my rhetoric unrecognisable, I have a feeling that being hard met with a very tactile reality something is amiss, forces us to do a bit more work. 

    Sometimes an Autistic individual will have made it through life with little complications or able to ignore the nuances of differences because this person is not greatly impacted. I would suggest this might be more often found in a male dominant within his own culture who's specialised in a field and has a steady income enough to make his wife happy. That's an observation. 

  • Thankyou so much for your observation. Communication has always been an effort and fitting in is something I consciously do. It looks like im going to do more reading up on ASD. Cheers

Reply Children
  • So much of that makes sence. Most of my school therapists were probably thinking that i stuttered because i didnt have the words of the sentence in my head before i said it. "Think of the words them say them" my speech therapists would say. They probably thought i was peeling or finding the words. With me i stutter less when im free forming. Saying my name at age 10 however could take a whole minute. (A very long minute) and i would invaribly have to write it down for them at the end. Thanks for the link

  • I failed to mention- my awareness = stuttering are more to do with actively peeling through the 'library' of this brain of mine, and due to my brains computational problems in these Lobes, experiencing a glitch. 

    When I was young, I just didn't speak much. Shy, Mouse, Ghost were tags I'd receive. It is the active effort of a part of the brain we don't innately heavily focus in on (semiotics / grammar) that will take a minute to catch up to speak / speed. 

    This is written in a way NTs might want to read it, but it basically suggests we tend to have Hyper-Symmetrical neuro-wiring. www.huffpost.com/.../amp