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Automatic disability status

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Hi guys, I sent this to an MP yesterday to try and get change for ASD people to have their disability recognised.  It said:

Hi, you're not my local MP.  However, I'm contacting you as you are the chair of APPG on autism.  I would to suggest a change to equality act 2010 in terms of conditions that automatically qualify as a disability.  I believe ASD should be included in this list (where it has been diagnosed under DSM 5).
I'm currently in the process of ongoing employment tribunal proceedings against my previous employer.  They have not conceeded my disability.  They don't feel that I'm impacted significantly on daily activities to meet the threshold of the legal definition.  My argument is that I do by default.  Here's why.  
In my ASD diagnostic report, it says:
"The concerns identified show features consistent with an autism spectrum disorder and show evidence of significantly impacting Dean's everyday functioning. This is consistent with criterion D of DSM 5."
In order for a diagnosis to be made, it has to fit the diagnostic criteria.  It has done and as was said, it fits criterion D of DSM 5. Section D is particularly important as it says:
"Do the symptoms cause clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of current functioning?"   
The clinical psychologist ruled that it has significant impact, therefore it meets the substantial part of the legal definition of disability.  The other two elements are covered, it's a mental impairment and it is long term as ASD is life long.  In fact anyone with a diagnosis of ASD under DSM 5 automatically meets the legal definition of disability criteria.  Do you agree with this and if so, would you aid me in having it be considered in parliament as a change to equality act 2010 for ASD to be added to the list of conditions that are automatically given disability status.  Many thanks.  
What do you think on this matter?
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  • Autism being a disability is a contention thing, ask a whole load of autistic people if they consider themselves disabled and you will be a mixed response, I've seen arguments for and against from autistic people on Twitter about this.

    As autism is varied it may not feel disabling to some, or they may just consider themselves different, neurodiverse.

    I understand your point of view as you going through a tribunal, but there could be negative consequences if autistic people are always classed as legally disabled.  Would that mean too disabled to work?  Employers wouldn't take on autistic people, of if they did make find other reasons/ways to sack them to avoid a tribunal.  It might also mean people avoid seeking a diagnosis in case it limits their future potential to work, or other things.

    For me, I think its a personal judgement if you want to class yourself as disabled, and that might be a better approach - some way for people to legally register as disabled providing they have a diagnosis report and any other evidence that backs that up.

    If you don't mind me asking, what the grounds for your dismissal?

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  • Autism being a disability is a contention thing, ask a whole load of autistic people if they consider themselves disabled and you will be a mixed response, I've seen arguments for and against from autistic people on Twitter about this.

    As autism is varied it may not feel disabling to some, or they may just consider themselves different, neurodiverse.

    I understand your point of view as you going through a tribunal, but there could be negative consequences if autistic people are always classed as legally disabled.  Would that mean too disabled to work?  Employers wouldn't take on autistic people, of if they did make find other reasons/ways to sack them to avoid a tribunal.  It might also mean people avoid seeking a diagnosis in case it limits their future potential to work, or other things.

    For me, I think its a personal judgement if you want to class yourself as disabled, and that might be a better approach - some way for people to legally register as disabled providing they have a diagnosis report and any other evidence that backs that up.

    If you don't mind me asking, what the grounds for your dismissal?

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  • in reply to Autimator

    Of course autistic people can choose if they feel their autism to be disabling. However what I'm trying to do is prove to my employer that on a technical basis my autism does meet the legal definition by default because of reasons mentioned on the original post and I'm also saying that all autistic people meet the definition as well, regardless of if they feel they're disabled or not. So it's already true that a diagnosis of ASD under DSM 5 meets the legal definition, this is factual rather than subjective. I just want to get it added to the list of conditions that automatically qualify in the equality act legislation. It will help people when they need it and it shouldn't go against anyone. Employers should be equal opportunities and do take on disabled people all the time.

    I wasn't dismissed. I was harassed for years by my supervisor and in April last year, he was filmed committing discriminatory gesture and comment about me. I took voluntary redundancy as a form of resignation. I was forced to do this because I could not return to work and now I'm not capable of working. I'm saying to the tribunal that I wont be present for the 6 day tribunal in person or over the phone because it would be distressing and that therefore, the cross examination questions need to be provided in advance in writing. They need to agree that I'm disabled for this to be put in place and they're digging their heels in on their position that I'm not.

    My employer knew in october 2018 of my ASD diagnosis.  My supervisor then became worse with me.

  • in reply to Autimator

    Its horrible because there are many people on the spectrum that are somewhere in between capable and disabled. Its these people that require additional support more because their expected to integrate into society and the workplace and benefits like PIP could allow individuals to work and gain the skills at their own pace to develop the resilience to work full time where others in the same situation may never be able to work full time. 

    You are aware of the fail to disclose clause that big companies like restaurant chains, supermarkets and other places that use zero hour contract use. failing to inform an employer of autism could get you fired beyond the trail period.