Inflexible attributional thinking

Basically, blank mind,, aspie analysis... conclusion.

Problem, conclusion is a judgment based on the attributes of the surrrounding environment,, problem with this no operational flexiblity, result stress, anxiety and non-function.

Example,, your boss is a !!!!!, you conclude this by evidence, it is the truth, everyone else(aka the NT's) in the work environment come to the same conclusion,, however with an autism aspie mindset,, the boss attribute becomes set in concrete,, like an operationing code which you can not break or change,,, this stops functioning, whereas the NT's can override there on attributor system,, ie put on a mask and false smile and still operate around this person without anxiety.

I put attributes on everything in my world, once set, very hard to remove or change, with the wrong attributional setting, it make my world rigid. I.e If I do not like someone due to there behaviour,, I become scared of them... Once the label is on,, it is hard to remove.,, Take the NAS my attribute label for them is one of distaste because they are establishment run, and my attribute for the establishment is one of corruption due to my work experiences with council and government...

I think religious fanatics,. purists and ideologists have the same problem....

I have started to play a little game with "the" mind, every thought I have,, I say it is attributional judgement... to see if I can cope with hating someone but still deal with them without emotional fear or hate. Yes,, Officer Trying to make black and white into shades of NT grey.

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longman over 12 years ago

If I might discretely intrude on your question, one of the difficult things to do in life is make a change of direction.
To do so you have to understand where you are at present in relation to external reference points. These need not be physical or geographical in the usual sense, but are about states of mind.
To whom do you refer for these external references. NTs have advantages here. One thing is that they are able to "move on". If something doesn't work, such as a particular discourse with others, or an intended relationship that doesn't work out, they can drop it all and start again.
Why is this? Well I think it is because conversation for NTs is a learning process. You engage in conversation to see if you can fit into a group. If it doesn't work, you start somewhere else. The experience of this process thousands of times in a lifetiime enables NTs to learn by social trial and error.
Secondly NTs seem able to forget about a failed interaction or transaction. If something doesn't work out they mostly forget it, don't retain any unanswered questions, or carry grievances. I think that has to be "part and parcel" of their social experimentation.
Not so when you have autism or Aspergers. You are unlikely to be successful with social experimentation. Workable social interchanges are hard won. Consequently you don't get a lot of experience of starting and ending social dialogues or relationships, just loads of negativity, failed dialogues or relationships.
It is also difficult to just forget unpleasant encounters or failed interchanges. Because you cannot readily identify causes or "move on" the failures tend to niggle. So you are more likely to carry grievances and not be able to just forget.
I think, if I may put it so, that ohalrightthen has an NT perspective, even if I'm right raising a child with autism. With that assumption made, it would be easy to talk about seeing a different perspective, and not harbouring negative perspectives.
But that's the problem with autism. It doesn't give you the chance to develop that relience. I think it is quite hard for anyone with autism or aspergers to step back, view their situation from outside reference points and re-appraise. They don't have the facility of external reference points that NTs readily acquire.
Hope that makes sense.

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longman over 12 years ago

If I might discretely intrude on your question, one of the difficult things to do in life is make a change of direction.
To do so you have to understand where you are at present in relation to external reference points. These need not be physical or geographical in the usual sense, but are about states of mind.
To whom do you refer for these external references. NTs have advantages here. One thing is that they are able to "move on". If something doesn't work, such as a particular discourse with others, or an intended relationship that doesn't work out, they can drop it all and start again.
Why is this? Well I think it is because conversation for NTs is a learning process. You engage in conversation to see if you can fit into a group. If it doesn't work, you start somewhere else. The experience of this process thousands of times in a lifetiime enables NTs to learn by social trial and error.
Secondly NTs seem able to forget about a failed interaction or transaction. If something doesn't work out they mostly forget it, don't retain any unanswered questions, or carry grievances. I think that has to be "part and parcel" of their social experimentation.
Not so when you have autism or Aspergers. You are unlikely to be successful with social experimentation. Workable social interchanges are hard won. Consequently you don't get a lot of experience of starting and ending social dialogues or relationships, just loads of negativity, failed dialogues or relationships.
It is also difficult to just forget unpleasant encounters or failed interchanges. Because you cannot readily identify causes or "move on" the failures tend to niggle. So you are more likely to carry grievances and not be able to just forget.
I think, if I may put it so, that ohalrightthen has an NT perspective, even if I'm right raising a child with autism. With that assumption made, it would be easy to talk about seeing a different perspective, and not harbouring negative perspectives.
But that's the problem with autism. It doesn't give you the chance to develop that relience. I think it is quite hard for anyone with autism or aspergers to step back, view their situation from outside reference points and re-appraise. They don't have the facility of external reference points that NTs readily acquire.
Hope that makes sense.

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