Do all the autism "support" interventions for kids actually work?

This topic relates to people with high functioning autism/Aspergers with no learning disability.

I am an adult female with Aspergers. I was diagnosed as an adult so I did not have any of the social skills and anxiety reduction interventions that Aspie kids get now. I   devised my own strategies for talking to people etc. by observing and then applying what I learned through observation to everyday situations. 

But, because these are learned behaviours that are not natural they are extremely tiring to maintain for a long time.

What I am wondering is whether all this "stuff" which Aspie kids get now is of any use to them once they are adults. Aspergers can't be cured, and I am seriously wondering if there is any point in giving kids loads of therapies, which might seem as if they are working in the short term but which are no use in the long term (ie when the kids get into the adult world) because the strategies they teach are unnatural to people with Aspergers and cannot be manitained without mental (and physical) exhaustion.

Has anyone out there had all this SUPPORT as a kid and is now able to function in the adult (post University) world without having crippling anxiety/loneliness/depression/OCD/eating disorders etc. ?

Just wondering.

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  • Some progress could be made with the way children are supported. Research seems to hinge more on cure than lifestyle support. The support tends to fall back on various treatments, depending on the reviews and cost, which supposedly achieve, if not a cure, some magic solution to survival in adulthood.

    There is an added danger with parents groups that they address autism/aspergers "by proxy". It tends to be about the parents, and while it is true that parents and siblings are affected, often very seriously affected by having a child on the spectrum, its the child that needs help. With the best will in the world, parents put everything into making it possible for their AS kids to grow up safely, but that does entail looking on it as a cure rather than a preparation for life.

    Therefore it is understandable that parents believe that somehow the process will create a happy, settled and independent adult.

    Trouble is the evidence isn't there yet. The Government initiative (that's now gone floppy) "Leading Rewarding and Fulfilling Lives" was partly aimed at determining the numbers of adults affected and the way they are affected. Its not going to happen if health authorities cannot distinguish adult autism from learning disability.

    We know very little, in real terms, about the consequences of autistic spectrum on adults. As I've already said above, we still don't have a handle on the numbers who go on to develop other psychological problems (who are treated for those problems ratgher than A S), or the numbers with depression, suicides, alcoholics, people in and out of prison. Its a huge problem.

    Parents groups encounter a few able asperger adults and whinge about them threatening resources for supporting children. They should be relieved if they are seeing adults who are able, even if they think that's a misleading impression. The alcoholics, the drop outs, the offenders, the mental illness cases, they were people's children once, and even if aspergers or autism wasn't diagnosed then, the parents I'm sure hoped for better outcomes.

    I know I'll be unpopular for saying this, but many parents groups are being quite selfish. It tends to be about them not the kids on the spectrum.

    I've said on another thread about social stories that we need to look at ways to make things easier for youing people to manage, than trying to force a magic cure.

    I've suggested things like encouraging them to use nods in place of eyte reactions, or to punctuate their speech with "emoticon" phrases that enable them to better convey the emotion behind their speech their eyes and faces cannot convey. Help young people become better adults by giving them the means to compete with their peers on something approaching a level playing field.

    But crutches for health workers, like Social Stories, don't work because they show people to have a weakness they cannot resolve, its like blame culture. Cannot anyone wake up to the fact that reminding AS kids of what they cannot do and suggesting fighting to achieve the impossible is a cure is not a kindness! 

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  • Some progress could be made with the way children are supported. Research seems to hinge more on cure than lifestyle support. The support tends to fall back on various treatments, depending on the reviews and cost, which supposedly achieve, if not a cure, some magic solution to survival in adulthood.

    There is an added danger with parents groups that they address autism/aspergers "by proxy". It tends to be about the parents, and while it is true that parents and siblings are affected, often very seriously affected by having a child on the spectrum, its the child that needs help. With the best will in the world, parents put everything into making it possible for their AS kids to grow up safely, but that does entail looking on it as a cure rather than a preparation for life.

    Therefore it is understandable that parents believe that somehow the process will create a happy, settled and independent adult.

    Trouble is the evidence isn't there yet. The Government initiative (that's now gone floppy) "Leading Rewarding and Fulfilling Lives" was partly aimed at determining the numbers of adults affected and the way they are affected. Its not going to happen if health authorities cannot distinguish adult autism from learning disability.

    We know very little, in real terms, about the consequences of autistic spectrum on adults. As I've already said above, we still don't have a handle on the numbers who go on to develop other psychological problems (who are treated for those problems ratgher than A S), or the numbers with depression, suicides, alcoholics, people in and out of prison. Its a huge problem.

    Parents groups encounter a few able asperger adults and whinge about them threatening resources for supporting children. They should be relieved if they are seeing adults who are able, even if they think that's a misleading impression. The alcoholics, the drop outs, the offenders, the mental illness cases, they were people's children once, and even if aspergers or autism wasn't diagnosed then, the parents I'm sure hoped for better outcomes.

    I know I'll be unpopular for saying this, but many parents groups are being quite selfish. It tends to be about them not the kids on the spectrum.

    I've said on another thread about social stories that we need to look at ways to make things easier for youing people to manage, than trying to force a magic cure.

    I've suggested things like encouraging them to use nods in place of eyte reactions, or to punctuate their speech with "emoticon" phrases that enable them to better convey the emotion behind their speech their eyes and faces cannot convey. Help young people become better adults by giving them the means to compete with their peers on something approaching a level playing field.

    But crutches for health workers, like Social Stories, don't work because they show people to have a weakness they cannot resolve, its like blame culture. Cannot anyone wake up to the fact that reminding AS kids of what they cannot do and suggesting fighting to achieve the impossible is a cure is not a kindness! 

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