Catch 22s

My 11-year daughter was diagnosed with ASD at the start of this year.  This came after many years of struggle and of being either rejected and/or misdiagnosed by professionals.  

I am looking for advice regarding two specific 'Catch 22s' that we have been battling with for some time as a family.  I'm sorry if this is a long post - disregard if you please, but I really need to get this off of my chest.  We've had no support since the diagnosis, there doesn't seem to be any bespoke helplines out there, and it's eating me up:

Firstly, attachment.  For many years, she struggled with separation anxiety.  This was mostly prevalent with me, but happened with her dad too.  It sometimes took two members of staff at the school to separate her from me.  It finally eased at around Year 5 of Juniors.  These days she's very independent - fighting for more of it in fact (we're going for the drip feed approach as she's only just started secondary school, which so far is going very well) - but she still craves and demands my undivided time and attention when we're together.  She loves her dad, but is very, very focused on me and spending time with me.  She likes to know what I'm doing and when, and becomes very distressed if I'm ever ill and in bed.  The only exception to this is when she is watching the telly, which is very much a go-to for her - either to wind down, or as a default when she doesn't know what to do with herself.  She has a younger sister aged 8 and can be exceptionally jealous at times, despite us repeatedly reassuring her that we are being fair.  It's like Big Brother watching me.  If anything, I have more 1:1 time with her than with her sister.  However, she will invariably pick me as her 'sounding board' and lament.  She will mention something that is making her anxious, like a friend taking her time getting from one lesson to the next, and as soon as I show sympathy and try and counsel her, it quickly descends into a huge rumination exercise.  I advise, she rejects my advice, and then we go round in repeated circles until it drives me completely crazy, and I lose my temper.  She will do nothing of the sort with her dad.  So for me, it's a complete Catch 22, and it seems brutally unfair.  I either brush it off and show complete apathy - which goes completely against my maternal instinct - or listen, be present and supportive, show her that I have her back, and then pay a hefty price.   What am I supposed to do here?

Secondly, structure. From a very, very early age, she has not known what to do with herself when there is downtime.  Her default is to watch telly, but I don't allow more than about an hour as I don't think it's healthy.  She will generally watch really nice programmes - Blue Peter, Strictly, Love your Garden, but takes comfort in watching and then rewatching, sometimes many times.  If we're all pottering, she's all at sea.  Completely and utterly lost and very anxious.  We try so very hard to suggest ideas, but she will invariably reject them, or interpret them as criticism. Every single one of them.  She loses her temper, then either I, or her Dad, or both of us lose our temper with her as she's so rude, and the weekends are more often than not a write-off these days.  Most upsettingly though, her sister is starting to really feel it.  When it happens, everything else has to disappear as the situation demands all of our focus and energy.  She's done nothing wrong here, but she hates it and is completely bewildered by it all.  We haven't (yet) told her about the diagnosis, but I am wondering whether this discussion needs to be brought forward.  We try and plan weekends, but we are an ordinary family with lots of jobs that need doing.  We don't have any family locally, but we try and chat with them on webchat when we can.  Again, how can we extricate ourselves from this toxicity?

Back at the start of this year, we gently made her aware of a diagnosis through reading a book together, but despite our best efforts she still feels a lot of shame and has a severe lack of self-esteem.  The above two Catch 22s are only making this situation worse, and we really need help in pulling her out of this. She gets herself completely stuck, and it's like she can't get herself out of her hamster wheel thought patterns.  We so want to help her, but we just don't know how.  

I'd be so grateful for any insights, thoughts, advice.  I'm trying so very hard to help her, but the more I try, the worse it's getting, and now as a family we are all struggling in very different ways.  

Thanks so much for reading x

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  • These days she's very independent - fighting for more of it in fact (we're going for the drip feed approach as she's only just started secondary school, which so far is going very well)

    Dangerous to hold them back too long though. When I was 17 I didn't know how to catch the bus home. You know why? Because when I was 12/13/14 and wanted to go places on my own my parents said no. By the time I was 17 I had no where to go. My social life such as it was was falling apart, I had no friends to visit etc. Teenagers need to learn independence early on to construct a platform for relationships outside of the family. If your child only spends time socially with a few kids all well known to your family it probably means she's only been able to look for friends with in a very small pool of kids which may be hampering her social life and development of her social skills. If she doesn't gain the independence to organise and run her own social life with out your help in the next few years she may struggle to develop that later on.

    She has a younger sister aged 8 and can be exceptionally jealous at times, despite us repeatedly reassuring her that we are being fair. 

    Maybe but I bet her sister gets more opportunities outside of the family? Invites to birthday parties, sleep overs? Autistic siblings are often aware that non autistic siblings are having an easier time of life. Expect that jealousy to get worse not better. And remember equality is not treating people the same it's making sure they get the same chances in life.

    She will mention something that is making her anxious, like a friend taking her time getting from one lesson to the next, and as soon as I show sympathy and try and counsel her, it quickly descends into a huge rumination exercise.  I advise, she rejects my advice, and then we go round in repeated circles until it drives me completely crazy, and I lose my temper.

    Sounds like you didn't get it. That's not surprising autistic people can be horribly bad at explaining our personal problems. That's probably the rumination exercise you noticed. Her restating the issue over and over in different ways hoping one will convey her feelings and thinking better. She will take any suggestion that doesn't seem to take all the factors she cares about into account as an indication that you haven't really understood her issue. You know why she doesn't do this to her dad? She probably doesn't have any faith (or very little faith) that he could understand. She confides in you and wants your advice, don't take that lightly.

    If we're all pottering, she's all at sea.  Completely and utterly lost and very anxious.  We try so very hard to suggest ideas, but she will invariably reject them, or interpret them as criticism. Every single one of them.

    She needs a hobby. Something she can take to extremes. Something that doesn't have to be rationed. Autistic people tend to be all or nothing people. Moderation doesn't come naturally. An OK activity probably won't cut it. She needs something she finds hugely engrossing that she can do pretty much anytime she finds herself board.

    We haven't (yet) told her about the diagnosis, but I am wondering whether this discussion needs to be brought forward.

    Probably but not without discussing it with her sister first.

    We try and plan weekends, but we are an ordinary family with lots of jobs that need doing.  We don't have any family locally, but we try and chat with them on webchat when we can.  Again, how can we extricate ourselves from this toxicity?

    What about friends. It may be hard to accept but a lot of the things your daughter needs right now are found outside of family. She needs a life outside of your family as well and visiting friends or going on trips with groups is not a bad thing for her to be doing on weekends. Think youth clubs, organised trips / activities etc. But they have to be things she enjoys in order to motivate her to confront the anxiety she'll likely feel about interacting with new people.

    Back at the start of this year, we gently made her aware of a diagnosis through reading a book together, but despite our best efforts she still feels a lot of shame and has a severe lack of self-esteem.  The above two Catch 22s are only making this situation worse, and we really need help in pulling her out of this. She gets herself completely stuck, and it's like she can't get herself out of her hamster wheel thought patterns.  We so want to help her, but we just don't know how. 

    It seems to me, if I had to guess, she's only just starting to comprehend how different she is from everybody else. The antidote to the anxiety and lack of self esteem this causes is of course to show her that different doesn't have to be bad. But this requires more than words or affection. It requires demonstration. She must find the places in which she can excel, take risks with out constant humiliation and succeed in her efforts.

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  • These days she's very independent - fighting for more of it in fact (we're going for the drip feed approach as she's only just started secondary school, which so far is going very well)

    Dangerous to hold them back too long though. When I was 17 I didn't know how to catch the bus home. You know why? Because when I was 12/13/14 and wanted to go places on my own my parents said no. By the time I was 17 I had no where to go. My social life such as it was was falling apart, I had no friends to visit etc. Teenagers need to learn independence early on to construct a platform for relationships outside of the family. If your child only spends time socially with a few kids all well known to your family it probably means she's only been able to look for friends with in a very small pool of kids which may be hampering her social life and development of her social skills. If she doesn't gain the independence to organise and run her own social life with out your help in the next few years she may struggle to develop that later on.

    She has a younger sister aged 8 and can be exceptionally jealous at times, despite us repeatedly reassuring her that we are being fair. 

    Maybe but I bet her sister gets more opportunities outside of the family? Invites to birthday parties, sleep overs? Autistic siblings are often aware that non autistic siblings are having an easier time of life. Expect that jealousy to get worse not better. And remember equality is not treating people the same it's making sure they get the same chances in life.

    She will mention something that is making her anxious, like a friend taking her time getting from one lesson to the next, and as soon as I show sympathy and try and counsel her, it quickly descends into a huge rumination exercise.  I advise, she rejects my advice, and then we go round in repeated circles until it drives me completely crazy, and I lose my temper.

    Sounds like you didn't get it. That's not surprising autistic people can be horribly bad at explaining our personal problems. That's probably the rumination exercise you noticed. Her restating the issue over and over in different ways hoping one will convey her feelings and thinking better. She will take any suggestion that doesn't seem to take all the factors she cares about into account as an indication that you haven't really understood her issue. You know why she doesn't do this to her dad? She probably doesn't have any faith (or very little faith) that he could understand. She confides in you and wants your advice, don't take that lightly.

    If we're all pottering, she's all at sea.  Completely and utterly lost and very anxious.  We try so very hard to suggest ideas, but she will invariably reject them, or interpret them as criticism. Every single one of them.

    She needs a hobby. Something she can take to extremes. Something that doesn't have to be rationed. Autistic people tend to be all or nothing people. Moderation doesn't come naturally. An OK activity probably won't cut it. She needs something she finds hugely engrossing that she can do pretty much anytime she finds herself board.

    We haven't (yet) told her about the diagnosis, but I am wondering whether this discussion needs to be brought forward.

    Probably but not without discussing it with her sister first.

    We try and plan weekends, but we are an ordinary family with lots of jobs that need doing.  We don't have any family locally, but we try and chat with them on webchat when we can.  Again, how can we extricate ourselves from this toxicity?

    What about friends. It may be hard to accept but a lot of the things your daughter needs right now are found outside of family. She needs a life outside of your family as well and visiting friends or going on trips with groups is not a bad thing for her to be doing on weekends. Think youth clubs, organised trips / activities etc. But they have to be things she enjoys in order to motivate her to confront the anxiety she'll likely feel about interacting with new people.

    Back at the start of this year, we gently made her aware of a diagnosis through reading a book together, but despite our best efforts she still feels a lot of shame and has a severe lack of self-esteem.  The above two Catch 22s are only making this situation worse, and we really need help in pulling her out of this. She gets herself completely stuck, and it's like she can't get herself out of her hamster wheel thought patterns.  We so want to help her, but we just don't know how. 

    It seems to me, if I had to guess, she's only just starting to comprehend how different she is from everybody else. The antidote to the anxiety and lack of self esteem this causes is of course to show her that different doesn't have to be bad. But this requires more than words or affection. It requires demonstration. She must find the places in which she can excel, take risks with out constant humiliation and succeed in her efforts.

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