Constructive euphemisms?

The usual deal is, of course, that you try to tell someone what you have recently discovered for yourself , and you get back the standard, " We're all a bit  *****". I personally can't think of a single case when it has really helped me for someone to say that; except perhaps when admitting it to myself or the diagnostician/assessor. So how could we phrase it some other way to disarm that reaction before it even begins to happen. I've taken, online, to just calling myself ''a bit slow''; as in 'Well, you know me, I've always been a bit slow off the mark". That does have a certain grain of truth in it, in my case; and I just sort of figure that their reaction is either then going to be something like, 'Well, I suppose I have might just have similar issues myself", or they are going to clam up completely, to avoid feeling uncomfortable.

You know, when you are young, nearly everyone one believes it is their god-given right to be completely and devastating candid about what they think YOUR problem is; while the exact same people when older will basically backpedal on all the scorn they offered you in your younger years. In their rush to be the quickest off the mark in the monetarist olympics of life, I can't really imagine anyone really wanting to say, "Well, we are all a bit slow sometimes''. And yet in my case, there is a grain of truth in it.

I've also been trying out 'neural damage'; as I can see how it might well have happened as a result of childhood sickness; and I have no real compunction about saying this about myself; why worry yourself about those fairly neutral words when the damage was obviously done decades ago. And I doubt whether too many people would then wish to contest such a blunt statement by citing a few of their own minor neurological issues.

But how about other 'alt' ways to relabel your life as something just a little bit different from the much maligned ASD/Asperger's thing? I'm just wondering if someone here might be able to come up with some real scorchers, to hex the  "We're all a bit  *****" bs; something that will make the listener go away for a while and ponder why you didn't come straight out with some stereotyped label that they could instantly and easily be dismissive of. I look forward to perhaps trying a few of your suggestions out; almost anything would be better that the complete silence that usually follows  "We're all a bit  *****".

But seriously, I can see myself enjoying this. I have found the ''a bit slow'' label a fairly constructive one, over the decades. It is something that can be later elaborated on, at length; or it can get people wondering why you didn't immediately use one of the more current 'labels'.

But I also wouldn't be too surprised if some folk think this is a dreadful idea. I'd still like to hear why! :-) If so, how else could one disarm the usual hackneyed NT response? I think I'm looking more for cheerful strategies, rather than sullen upheaval.

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  • This looks like a really interesting post, but I've read it twice and still can't get a grasp on what it's about. That said, today has been a very stressful day so perhaps my brain isn't taking in information properly.

  • One might sum it up as "looking for satisfactory personal strategies to counteract the current indifference of the modern-day majority to ANY minority issue". If you are struggling to understand my muddled reasoning, then I guess that it might be better to just start again from that summary, and then perhaps respond in any way that you personally find worthwhile. (And that would include "pass".) But obviously, pick a good day for it, and I will pick a good day to respond, if a response seems appropriate. ;-) 

    I'm looking for ways to ensure that I too am at least sometimes heard. In my current circumstances, if I make any attempt to communicate the essence of my fairly long and solitary life, that communication goes no where. In effect, most listeners (including family) just reach for the OFF switch. So our daily communication never really goes much further than "Pass the sauce please". The obvious NT (and perhaps even ND) conclusion to this very long-term communication breakdown is that I am probably way past my sell-by date. (My own conclusion too.) However, I am not the easiest person to just give up on a complete life's experience. So here I am looking for a few new and amusing ways to elicit some sort of constructive response. But the main thing here is that solemnity is not really required.

    I tend to talk in euphemisms because I have long found that almost no one is really in favour of a more direct delivery. Life is a performance art, I suppose, and I'm not the greatest stand-up comedian. I guess that is why I refer to myself as 'slow'. I find it works much more satisfactorily than the more usual labels. But a few other alternative explanations would undoubtedly help my schtick. Well, I have a couple more already. That's good!

  • I think I've got it, thank you. Yes, it does irritate me when people make that remark. But  it has nothing to do with the surface meaning of the words, but everything to do with their sub-text.

    Everyone's a little bit autistic. (I have some of these traits myself or ones similar to them. And I know lots of other people who have them too. We're only just beginning to understand Autism and I wouldn't be surprised if one day it comes out that it's more common a condition that we assumed). 

    Everyone's a little bit autistic. (Stop making excuses, you lazy malingerer. We all have problems and we all need support so there's no reason why you should be getting any special treatment.) 

  • Well, it tends to be more 'militarised' here; although that is not such a huge difference, given that people in uniforms usually either run a business simultaneous with their service, or as a follow-up. And we are talking about large organisations.

    However, perhaps we should now be getting back a bit to the thorny issue of how best to declare, or not declare, one's issues/disorders/conditions; especially as we are perhaps looking into means by which some form of subversion of NT mores can take place. It's not that I necessarily feel that I need to resort to drastic measures, but I do believe a very different approach is necessary.

  • We're all subject to surveillance now, Senor. Even the suspicion that one has gone off-message from the authorised global narrative is proof enough of the crime of 'disinformation'.

    Each and everyone of us is now only one comment, one opinion, or one website hit away from being denounced as dangerous extremists—undesirable elements—who must be punished socially, economically and psychologically.

    Because we now live in privatised societies controlled by Corporations, the only freedom any of us still enjoy is the “freedom" to consume.

  • She probably believes that if we 'slow-processing' people have any so-called common sense left, that we should ditch any notion that we might be autistic at the point at which we become adults. Childhood autism is almost considered cute in this culture; whereas adulthood autism is no longer admissible when it might lead to 'face'-losing comparisons between the behaviour of ordinary citizens and the behaviour of certain higher status individuals.  So adult indulgence of youngsters tends to end at about 18, when future adults either need to shape up, ship out or sit pretty - entirely dependent on parents or rellies.

    The above is all deliberately vague. There are some volunteer ultra-nationalist nerds, in my locale, who attempt to read outgoing posts, looking for the supposed 5th column. Their English is usually not so good. But that's a two-edged sword! It can mean they either get it dangerously right when there is some sort of critique involved, or they can dangerously misunderstand even positive comments. But of course, that doesn't apply to anyone who doesn't live here; so outsider comments are not necessarily a problem.  My guess is they mostly skip reading long posts anyway; or just search for keywords. Blocking of sites abroad is not unknown. I deliberately avoid overtly political comments; and take no local side.

  • Don't worry, Senor. I'm not good at reading facial expressions, but I've developed 'spidey senses' when it comes to capturing the good or bad vibes that someone is transmitting to me (beyond their mere words). I'm sorry to hear that about hour wife. Why does she deny autism in adults? Does she think it resolves itself during maturation? I'm the same, I'm only bitten once, never twice. 

  • No sarcasm intended here, I paranoically hasten to add! Yes, familar ground. They might fool me once or twice, and I'll let them get away with it. Thereafter they won't find much comfort in talking to thin air. That, of course, is anti-social. But hell, I enjoy it that way, anyway. ... Most of the time. My partner is probably an even more extreme version of that reproach. That suggests to me that she might also be somewhere on the aloof scale. Like persons attract and all that jazz. But as she is also totally committed to completely denying adulthood autism, it is highly likely we will continue to create sparks until demise do us part. We're well-suited.

  • Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter, don't mind. — Dr. Seuss 

    This is the maxim I live by nowadays, Senor. I interact politely and honestly with people, so if they ever respond with sarcasm, criticism, or any other form of hostility, well, I thank them, inwardly, for letting me know not to interact with them again. 
  •  Thumbsup I've heard it both ways. In the former, it was probably fairly well intended. But as the latter takes almost an opposite stance with the same words, the former is probably ill-advised if the speaker wishes to demonstrate some degree of solidarity. So best avoided altogether, perhaps. Now, how can we make some sort of euphemised admission to try & avoid eliciting it either way. I'm still sticking with either 'slow' or 'some neural damage', at the moment.

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  •  Thumbsup I've heard it both ways. In the former, it was probably fairly well intended. But as the latter takes almost an opposite stance with the same words, the former is probably ill-advised if the speaker wishes to demonstrate some degree of solidarity. So best avoided altogether, perhaps. Now, how can we make some sort of euphemised admission to try & avoid eliciting it either way. I'm still sticking with either 'slow' or 'some neural damage', at the moment.

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  • Well, it tends to be more 'militarised' here; although that is not such a huge difference, given that people in uniforms usually either run a business simultaneous with their service, or as a follow-up. And we are talking about large organisations.

    However, perhaps we should now be getting back a bit to the thorny issue of how best to declare, or not declare, one's issues/disorders/conditions; especially as we are perhaps looking into means by which some form of subversion of NT mores can take place. It's not that I necessarily feel that I need to resort to drastic measures, but I do believe a very different approach is necessary.

  • We're all subject to surveillance now, Senor. Even the suspicion that one has gone off-message from the authorised global narrative is proof enough of the crime of 'disinformation'.

    Each and everyone of us is now only one comment, one opinion, or one website hit away from being denounced as dangerous extremists—undesirable elements—who must be punished socially, economically and psychologically.

    Because we now live in privatised societies controlled by Corporations, the only freedom any of us still enjoy is the “freedom" to consume.

  • She probably believes that if we 'slow-processing' people have any so-called common sense left, that we should ditch any notion that we might be autistic at the point at which we become adults. Childhood autism is almost considered cute in this culture; whereas adulthood autism is no longer admissible when it might lead to 'face'-losing comparisons between the behaviour of ordinary citizens and the behaviour of certain higher status individuals.  So adult indulgence of youngsters tends to end at about 18, when future adults either need to shape up, ship out or sit pretty - entirely dependent on parents or rellies.

    The above is all deliberately vague. There are some volunteer ultra-nationalist nerds, in my locale, who attempt to read outgoing posts, looking for the supposed 5th column. Their English is usually not so good. But that's a two-edged sword! It can mean they either get it dangerously right when there is some sort of critique involved, or they can dangerously misunderstand even positive comments. But of course, that doesn't apply to anyone who doesn't live here; so outsider comments are not necessarily a problem.  My guess is they mostly skip reading long posts anyway; or just search for keywords. Blocking of sites abroad is not unknown. I deliberately avoid overtly political comments; and take no local side.

  • Don't worry, Senor. I'm not good at reading facial expressions, but I've developed 'spidey senses' when it comes to capturing the good or bad vibes that someone is transmitting to me (beyond their mere words). I'm sorry to hear that about hour wife. Why does she deny autism in adults? Does she think it resolves itself during maturation? I'm the same, I'm only bitten once, never twice. 

  • No sarcasm intended here, I paranoically hasten to add! Yes, familar ground. They might fool me once or twice, and I'll let them get away with it. Thereafter they won't find much comfort in talking to thin air. That, of course, is anti-social. But hell, I enjoy it that way, anyway. ... Most of the time. My partner is probably an even more extreme version of that reproach. That suggests to me that she might also be somewhere on the aloof scale. Like persons attract and all that jazz. But as she is also totally committed to completely denying adulthood autism, it is highly likely we will continue to create sparks until demise do us part. We're well-suited.

  • Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter, don't mind. — Dr. Seuss 

    This is the maxim I live by nowadays, Senor. I interact politely and honestly with people, so if they ever respond with sarcasm, criticism, or any other form of hostility, well, I thank them, inwardly, for letting me know not to interact with them again.