Benefits

NAS69281 said:

I've heard of people getting a late diagnosis (in their twenties) and all of a sudden they were housed and had benefits thrown at them. I just can't understand why there are some people who are given housing etc and others who are given nothing at all.

Where is your evidence to support your claim that people getting an autism diagnosis are given housing and have welfare benefits thrown at them? I think you'll find that in order to receive any state welfare benefits most people have to jump through rings of fire.

Or be the immigrant population that have most recently been bussed in to replace us.

That seems to work out very well...

Replaced? Who is being replaced? Who is being bussed in? I heard that most farmers' produce in rotting in the fields and trees these days. 

Not Europeans, and anyway the lack of those shows it was immigrants who were propping up the economy. I seem to remember a certain chain of pubs that has been hit particularly badly now the immigrants are no longer here to serve their customers. 

Afghans? I would hope someone would welcome me if any country I was trapped in was doing what the Tacloban do to anyone who tries to stand up to their outrageous demands. 

Thank you for that I Sperg, I did suspect that psychological manipulation by tapping into unconscious weaknesses was what you were alluding to. I know it's used in advertising. In fact, I once visited a language school that professed to use these techniques to 'work' with people, another school turned out to be scientologists.

I was particularly interested to hear Cambridge Analytica is said to have manipulated the public into making a certain crucial vote in 2016.....

I don't come here to make rows here necessarily either, and again there are those at the top who are more than happy to see the poorest and most vulnerable peoe tear each other apart instead of saving their anger for the real enemy.

I suspect your political views are very different from my own,  but then my parents'political views were diametrically opposed to my own too, which caused plenty of tensions! I won't pretend I don't still feel deep anger about what unemployment does to people (and me, at the time) and the way it is used to create a very useful scapegoat, and the same goes for immigration. I am an immigrant too, rather than an expatriate, and being one was at times worse than being unemployed, until the EU expanded in 2004. That is why I will never understand why there is so much opposition to immigration. That's where I am coming from anyway. 

I didn't say there was anything wrong with your understanding, (that would be pretty arrogant!) I did say that your understanding is incomplete, (as I am sure my own is) and supplied an obscure but very educational concept. So obscure it turns out, that the search engine doesn't pick it up so I guess I'd better flesh it out a bit.

"Depth manipulation" (as opposed to depth of field manipulation, a photographers technique often used to draw the eye where the photographer wants it to go) is a psychological / advertising concept whereby the target audience (that's you and me) is manipulated to take on a particular belief or action by triggering the deeper more subconcious and less rational part of your mind. It's obscure for a good reason, not least being that knoweldge of the technique seems to confer a degree of immunity to it's effects! It's used on us by various agencies and businesses ALL THE TIME, and it's as effective as it is evil. .  

If you can find a copy of Vance Packard's "The hidden persuaders", enlightenment awaits. I would suggest based on my own observation and teh knowledge I obtained all those years ago, that "depth manipulation" is what has been used to make the British public accept the replacement of both itself, and it's previously cherished values. 

I didn't say there was anything wrong with your understanding, (that would be pretty arrogant!) I did say that your understanding is incomplete, (as I am sure my own is) and supplied an obscure but very educational concept. So obscure it turns out, that the search engine doesn't pick it up so I guess I'd better flesh it out a bit.

"Depth manipulation" (as opposed to depth of field manipulation, a photographers technique often used to draw the eye where the photographer wants it to go) is a psychological / advertising concept whereby the target audience (that's you and me) is manipulated to take on a particular belief or action by triggering the deeper more subconcious and less rational part of your mind. It's obscure for a good reason, not least being that knoweldge of the technique seems to confer a degree of immunity to it's effects! It's used on us by various agencies and businesses ALL THE TIME, and it's as effective as it is evil. .  

If you can find a copy of Vance Packard's "The hidden persuaders", enlightenment awaits. I would suggest based on my own observation and teh knowledge I obtained all those years ago, that "depth manipulation" is what has been used to make the British public accept the replacement of both itself, and it's previously cherished values. 

Thank you for that I Sperg, I did suspect that psychological manipulation by tapping into unconscious weaknesses was what you were alluding to. I know it's used in advertising. In fact, I once visited a language school that professed to use these techniques to 'work' with people, another school turned out to be scientologists.

I was particularly interested to hear Cambridge Analytica is said to have manipulated the public into making a certain crucial vote in 2016.....

I don't come here to make rows here necessarily either, and again there are those at the top who are more than happy to see the poorest and most vulnerable peoe tear each other apart instead of saving their anger for the real enemy.

I suspect your political views are very different from my own,  but then my parents'political views were diametrically opposed to my own too, which caused plenty of tensions! I won't pretend I don't still feel deep anger about what unemployment does to people (and me, at the time) and the way it is used to create a very useful scapegoat, and the same goes for immigration. I am an immigrant too, rather than an expatriate, and being one was at times worse than being unemployed, until the EU expanded in 2004. That is why I will never understand why there is so much opposition to immigration. That's where I am coming from anyway.