The Decision to Use Certain Terms

Hi Community,

I just want to take a heartfelt moment - one that almost brings me to tears. It's taken, give or take, a year to make the decision to join this page and the community at large. I had not heard of the National Autistic Society until I was involved last year in some employment work/a panel discussion promoting employees on the spectrum in the workplace. As well as being given a chance to present my thoughts and feelings on experiencing autism in the workplace, I suppose it sort of awakened a sleeping bear inside of me. For context, I attended the first specialist boarding school for pupils with learning disabilities and or/affective disorders (St Dominics School in Hambledon) where we underwent a quite intense but fun schooling experience, geared towards preparing us for life in the outside world.

I must admit. After school, I did not have much interest in helping or communicating with my own peoples and community. I suppose I had this disparaging/alienated view that where some of my more severe and non-verbal comrades had had an 'easy life' and were hugging the shore of comfort, I was out there in the world grafting through college and working to forge a good life. Years later I realise that was a foolish thought, but one that I have ultimately reconciled and put to bed in being determined to help my people out and in working to help ensure that we all have a chance at a good future here. For some of those of us more politically/historically minded, I think history and society at large has treated us like lepers/anomalies. I have altogether ditched the term 'Aspergers' as I cannot reconcile how such a monstrous man can be associated with us. Rant aside, I am just .... relieved to be amongst my tribe.

Now - on to what I was actually going to ask. 

I have a habit of using my helicopter view as I call it (potential to see things from an aerial view/removed position) to really break the fourth wall in life and let people know when what they are doing just a) makes no sense and b) is just universally wrong or in contrast to what actions need to be done. Subsequently, I have a habit of saying 'Human, listen.' or referring to people not on the spectrum as humans. I don't mean it derogatorily, I just mean it in a third person fashion, like as an alien would observe humans if that makes sense? Perhaps it's just the complex I have built around my autism. But I wondered if people here find themselves using similar terms or looking at people not on the spectrum as being... alien or just not of the same kind?

I have to forewarn you all. I have been mulling on this a fair bit, so I figured I might as well use this as a safe space to discuss and explore my view.

  • I would say this is more the appropriate context, Moon on how I see using the term 'humans'

    And you got to admit, we are very much a world apart sometimes. 

  • Hello, 817, and welcome to the forum. It was interesting to read your backstory, so thanks for taking the time to recount it in so much detail and with so much gusto. 

    But I wondered if people here find themselves using similar terms or looking at people not on the spectrum as being... alien or just not of the same kind?

    Regardless of their neurotype,  I often find myself regarding people with a slight sense of detachment (and more often than not—bewilderment).

  • Thank you Moon!

    Thank you for your advice and I think I took a lot of those points onboard. I don't see it as tribalism so much as I do, feel like there is a visible difference in thinking and living between NDS and NTS. It can sometimes feel like we are a world apart.

    But I see your wisdom. Thank you again Heart

  • Edit: Hello and welcome!

    Refering to people as "human" like that does kind of tickle me, but I wouldn't use it myself as I suspect it could easily be misinterpreted as condescending (depending on delivery - which many autists are not so good at).

    I was very pleased to realise my condition a few years ago, and happy to declare myself an Autist and that I think differently to most people around me.

    I don't think though that extreme NT vs ND tribalism is helpful. Despite our differences, NTs are still far & away our closest relatives in this universe!

    I've found that most people (NT or not) are the usual mix of the good, the bad, the ugly and the sublime... averaging at out "decent". I think I'm lucky though that I've been in a position to remove myself from the few genuinely bad people I've come across, and not had to suffer at their hands excessively (compared to some of the horror stories on this board).