Myers-Briggs personalities and autism

I recently came across the Myers-Briggs tests you can do to learn about your personality type and things you may or may not find easy in life. Mine is INTJ-T and I was really taken aback at how accurate the results described the way I think and the way I approach life. I guess I’m just really curious about if there’s any correlation between certain personality types and autism because I’ve seen it mentioned a few times on here and just interested to hear if that’s the case Slight smile

maybe there are certain personality types that are more common within our community? Or maybe not! Slight smile

  • I'm an INFJ-T, and I also have wondered if there is a correlation between the mbti and those on the spectrum. 

  • Absolutely, it is widespread. If you have a look at the job market today, with a few exceptions, especially in the lower ends, entry level, unskilled, semi-skilled and jobcentres, agencies etc, they basically want to own you. You must be flexible, a team player, able to do summersaults and stand on your head whilst juggling at the same time..... all for a pittance, min wage or so. Of course, if you are lucky enough to be qualified in something or work for a big company, the pay may be higher but the superman/wonderwomen expectations and criteria of the above are still there today and widespread. 

    It's very interesting as to what Alan Greenspan said at he time, during the ' so called boom years ' .

    If you go lower than that, then you are into the horrors of zero-hour contracts and the benefit system, falling mental health, poverty, debt and so on which by all accounts are the most brutal and less generous/civilised here in comparison with other European countries.

    Priority of Personality types, mental health and the greater good for society does not yet exist nor is it on the radar of government or society at large because of the idiotic way we structure and organise our society and communities to be ruled by a central power i.e - the ego. 

    At the moment, for example, none of us truly believe in all the nonsense that divides us. It is just repetitively widespread and bombarded upon us by the minority that has the most money. 

    Quite obviously, as the warning sign from the UN has turned to red regarding climate change, 5 mins to midnight, we can no longer live or accept this stupefied  status quo. 

    Yes, it's kinda  going off the subject in a way, but everything is connected. 

    I admire your ability to make the shift in career and conquer so much through understanding. 

    You have travelled so far and gave us all inspiration. 

  • Yes, it feels to me as though the one-size-fits-all approach extends way beyond education too.  And certainly within the workplace I found that certain personality types were more favoured and sought after.  When I first entered the jobs market back in the 80s, for example, there were so many job adverts which basically seemed to be looking for extroverts.  And, if I wasn't usually able to at least present as a decisive self-starter/team player with a "shirt-sleeves" approach and a busy social life (for those awkward questions about what I liked to do in my spare time) then, in order to get the job, I'd better at least pretend to be for interview purposes.  

    I think this might have been where my mask solidified and trapped little ole introverted me in a kind of self-imposed dungeon.  To allow the introvert out was often to invite criticism so better only do that within the sanctuary that is my home.  

    Now, with a bit more thought and awareness (and actually knowing that I'm autistic, unlike the first 55 years of my life!) I am more able to carve out something that doesn't involve extreme masking.  Sadly though, the lighthouses are unmanned and they're generally not taking on any more librarians.  I like my counselling (second/later life career) but maybe there's also some work going on a remote weather station somewhere or some conservation project miles from anywhere?    

      

  • I think it was a great observation by Jung and it can be helpful to the individual to know themselves a bit better or to steer them in the right direction career-wise. For example, it would be useful to those starting out or changing careers as it could be a very stressful or costly error for, say, an extrovert to take a job as a lighthouse keeper or stuck on their own everyday or for an introvert to take high-flying sales or corporate jobs that had no meaning to them. 

    So while it can be useful if the individual stumbles across Myers-Brigg, there are other areas where perhaps it could be useful but ignored, like the education system, in the sense, that all the personality types have different ways of learning. Yet we still have largely a one-size-fits-all system when it comes to mandatory, mainstream Primary & Secondary education. It still amazes me that whilst we have changed massively as a society since the Industrial Revolution and made rapid advances in technology, that we somehow still have this rigid and hugely outdated education system where we send our children to a place where bells or buzzers sound periodically like a regimented factory of 200 years ago and where desks are lined up like production lines facing the person in charge.

    And this is without mentioning Autism. 

  • I’m ISTP-A , assertive virtuoso. I’ve heard of the Myers-Briggs personality types but I don’t know much in depth. Quite interesting though that it mentions ADHD in some of the descriptions for Virtuoso

  • I used to be a bit obsessed with Myers-Briggs, and would try to guess the types of people I knew.  I think I'm an INFJ. 

  • I really think there are technological advances and capitalistic advances which are now marginalising autistic individuals. Let's suppose, as Jung did, that these particular character traits were simply a different personality. When reading further into MBTI, one finds out that the iNTJ can seem aloof but highly scientific, this might make their opinion respectable and their 'isms' tolerable. They might have a voice in a situation where everyone is a bit different and perhaps they're keen to something I might not suspect.

    But to make that person now Disabled within society simply because it favours social interactions over scientifiic reasoning and would even hold a child back in school for not being an extrovert, then we have massive problems. That child wouldn't have an issue if the school wasn't saving money with flourescents or fond of chaoitc aesthetic (Nickelodean's motto, for instance: Chaos is Creativity, such rubbish), or going to theatres where the sound is deafening, or not allowed kinetic learning or out door play. There's a myriad of problems which are socially favoured and shaping and us/them society in relation to NT/ND individuals starting with language. I will personally favour older translations of philosophers in favour of new due to the precisicon with language once thought to be appropriate. 

  • Yes, I always thought it was just personality too.  And so I often ended up in the self help aisle, looking for books on how to overcome anxiety or, later on, the power of introversion or being a "highly sensitive person".  I always felt as though i was getting there but never quite arriving.  But of course, and especially in the light of my family background, it was always unidentified autism and the issues spinning out from a total lack of support and understanding.   

  • There was a thread not too long ago on this. Along with Twitter - it does seem many of us have very similar M-B types. Researching further into Jung's Archetypes is quite good. I'm an INTJ.

    *I should add that this was useful in my late 20's and for many years before I learned about the Spectrum / ND thinking. I just assumed it was personality... 

  • I suspect there will be at least some overlap but then probably a lot of "outliers" too because to my mind being autistic occurs at a different level.  I think there'll be more of a correlation between the heritable part of personality (which I've seen reckoned at around 50%) and autism because this'll be the "hardwired" part. 

    My own type came out as INFJ-T but I understand that there are quite a few autistic people who consider themselves to be extroverts.