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Mental illness caused by a bad society

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Where do you draw the line, is mental illness medical or caused by society?

If a Jew was mentally ill when they were being persecuted in Nazi Germany, it would be hard to draw the line.

Black men are a lot more likely to be sectioned in mental health hospitals. Perhaps that's linked to racism being more prevalent towards black men in the UK?

Autistic people are significantly more likely to kill themselves and die young than other people. Is that genetically inevitable or because society drives people to it?

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  • The short answer is yes (and from research) when it comes to Autism and Schizophrenia - a majority of the time. 

    For in-depth reading, Deleuze and Guattari's Anti-Oedipus, Capitalism and Schizophrenia, literally spells out in glorious detail how this can happen. It's further backed up by their extension on these matters in A Thousand Plateaus. 

    Both R.D. Laing and Felix Guattari believed marginalised individuals needs an escape, a retreat from society. They were experimental at the time as their theories hadn't been put in to practice and they both abhorred the practices in "medicine" at the time against the mentally ill. It's traumatising to even research, to be honest.

    Oedipalisation is a process through Sublimation (a defence mechanism), given the name by Freud, where Neurotics (NTs) intake as children through semiotics and language that they are innately guilty and therefore operate out of a feeling of debt. Basically an exchange of Guilt and Debt. So they go about malfunctioning as it were and society operates this way: "functioning because it malfunctions". So long as a thing is misfiring rather than just worn out, it is in operation. In the extreme, they become psychotic or perverse (warped thinking) with this guilt and debt. I personally think the double empathy problem hinges on this mode for NTs with everyone affirming each others virtue signalling of 'feeling guilty' and making it some kind of drama, as what else can one do? 

    This sort of feeling can drive all sorts of bad ethics. And when an ASC child senses a thing is out of order or off and cannot understand this in society, it IS completely maddening. Now, this isn't in the least to throw aside biological malfunctioning, which is unfortunate and should always be examined, but NTs are cruel to each other in covert ways. What would make us think they would be any kinder to those who appear to 'escape their system' or escape their chains and imagined imprisonment. 

    Big topic, though. There's so much more... 

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  • The short answer is yes (and from research) when it comes to Autism and Schizophrenia - a majority of the time. 

    For in-depth reading, Deleuze and Guattari's Anti-Oedipus, Capitalism and Schizophrenia, literally spells out in glorious detail how this can happen. It's further backed up by their extension on these matters in A Thousand Plateaus. 

    Both R.D. Laing and Felix Guattari believed marginalised individuals needs an escape, a retreat from society. They were experimental at the time as their theories hadn't been put in to practice and they both abhorred the practices in "medicine" at the time against the mentally ill. It's traumatising to even research, to be honest.

    Oedipalisation is a process through Sublimation (a defence mechanism), given the name by Freud, where Neurotics (NTs) intake as children through semiotics and language that they are innately guilty and therefore operate out of a feeling of debt. Basically an exchange of Guilt and Debt. So they go about malfunctioning as it were and society operates this way: "functioning because it malfunctions". So long as a thing is misfiring rather than just worn out, it is in operation. In the extreme, they become psychotic or perverse (warped thinking) with this guilt and debt. I personally think the double empathy problem hinges on this mode for NTs with everyone affirming each others virtue signalling of 'feeling guilty' and making it some kind of drama, as what else can one do? 

    This sort of feeling can drive all sorts of bad ethics. And when an ASC child senses a thing is out of order or off and cannot understand this in society, it IS completely maddening. Now, this isn't in the least to throw aside biological malfunctioning, which is unfortunate and should always be examined, but NTs are cruel to each other in covert ways. What would make us think they would be any kinder to those who appear to 'escape their system' or escape their chains and imagined imprisonment. 

    Big topic, though. There's so much more... 

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