Do You Think Everyone Is Autistic?

I often find myself come across people claiming "I'm a bit autistic" saying everyone is a bit autistic.

I point out to them so many things they refer to as "autism traits" are not autism traits at all but is just general human behaviours by all people, but when an autistic person does it it gets described negatively.  

Stimming as an example, I see nearly everyone stim, so many people tapping their foot on the floor, some picking their nails, some just twirling hair etc. because they do something an autistic person does they assume they're a bit autistic. 

When I tell them doing something labelled "autism trait" doesn't make them a bit autistic, that people are either autistic or not, I back it up asking "I sometimes say a metaphor, does that mean I'm a bit neurotypical?" I point out to them autism is a neurodevelopmental condition. 

I say "people with bipolar have mood swings, I hear most people have mood swings, so does everyone have a bit of bipolar disorder?" 

They still go claiming everyone's a bit autistic. Do you agree with the people who say everyone's a bit autistic?

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  • Lots of NTs say this - but they have no idea of the magnitude of the problems we face - they think our 1000% stress is the same as their 'a little bit worried'.

  • they do tend to overblow things.... probably so they can get some sort of social attention reward perhaps?

    i always say myself that i never get headaches ever in my life, i probably do, its just that they are so pathetic and low in the pain scale that i hardly notice them and they arnt worth complaining about. but yet everyone else always complains of headaches as if its some big deal... its nothing lol not even worth mentioning.... hell i even got super drunk and each time these so called hangovers were nothing, sure you wake up a bit tired and groggy, big whoop di doo lol nothing worth mentioning or complaining about that has any effect worth a mention to anyone. people overblow everything when its nothing.

    i think this phenomena is also similar to that shite we see online were on facebook someone writes some attention seeking woe is me post without being too specific followed by all their friends posting sympathy stuff or saying they will message them... when most likely nowt is wrong with them, they just wanted social attention. and that is one thing that rules NTs, they do everything to get more social attention.

  • So, because you're lucky enough not to suffer bad headaches, they're not a thing? Just like hangovers? So people are only allowed to feel something if you feel it also, otherwise it's not valid? I'm glad you don't suffer from headaches. Really, I am. Because I wouldn't wish a bad headache on my worst enemy.  I get cluster headaches, which makes me WANT to rip my head off, I get migraines, which makes me unable to stand without throwing up, whilst also FEELING like my head is being ripped off. Both these ARE a big deal. They leave me debilitated and unable to function. I also get normal headaches, which, though not as debilitating, are b****y painful (and I have a high pain threshold). Just because you don't experiences them, that doesn't negate other people's experiences. Yet again, you're there with the over generalisations. When I was young, and I drank, I never had a hangover, but I was never arrogant enough to think that because I didn't get them, other people didn't either. I'd love to see the data that backs up your statements, such as "One thing that rules NTs, they do everything to get more social attention". This goes directly against research that indicates that approximately 50% of the population are introverts, and hate attention being focused on them. Just as in any section of society, NTs have attention seekers and hermits, and those in-between, as do NDs.

  • dunno, these days anythings possible with gender politics, you could be a mr if you want, you could be a fox too or a alien. such is the crazy ways of modern day marxist society.

  • See? You're doing it again. Thinking you know exactly what someone else is thinking, feeling or experiencing. You don't. End of. That's not arrogance, that's fact. Unless you're the world's only true psychic, you do not know what another person feels or thinks. Even if they actually tell you, you don't know it's true. And no, you were very insistent that you one what others thought and that they were lying, basically. There was no 'flip'. As for misunderstanding you,  I did stipulate,  "And IF you're saying", because no, ididn't understand you fully, you're words made little sense. But obviously that makes me a fraud for staying I was a martial arts instructor, because you don't explain yourself clearly and I didn't understand you. OK, whatever. I don't really care, I know my life and my achievements, and I'm happy with them. If you wish to disbelieve them, go ahead. As I said, chip on the shoulder. 

    Oh, and it's 'Ms' Good 'Two' Shoes, if you've read my other message re: pain. There's only one way I'd know about the pain of childbirth AND of being punched in the face, first hand. And it's not by being a Mr!

  • fair enough, but may i suggest your also arrogant too as you see things in black nd white, right or wrong, and your side is always "right"? lol ... where as if you read any of my comments my comments are very open to flipping, and doesnt pick a side but rather stays in limbo with the ability to both self critique or discard my own opinions.

    perhaps arrogance is a human trait then if we both seemingly have it. but is your arrogance so strong that it blinds you to this realisation? ....edit: theres no perhaps about this, it is a human trait just like many other things youd decline in yourself due to your black and white view of things and pretending your the goody too shoes, which astonishingly is another massive example of your arrogance mr goody too shoes lol i used to think just like you... when i was fucking 12 years old.... always thinking i was a island of morality surrounded by a sea of evil.... you havent grown out of that yet i see?

    edit: and you didnt read or comprehend my words good enough it seems.... the trait in which i said is good for a instructor is the expectancy of people to better themselves.... if you dont think thats what martial arts is about then im sorry to say you took up bullshido. martial arts is all about self betterment and the expectancy to be better, if you dont understand that then you didnt do shaolin at all.... even frauds understand the basic concept of self betterment through martial arts.... so thats a big oof if you didnt get that down, as even the famous fraud jake mace has that down lol

  • No, it's definitely arrogance to assume that you know other people better than they do, or that you know exactly how other people are feeling and to what extent. It's also arrogance to assume you know whether someone is ambitious or not, without actually knowing a thing about them. You've read a few POF profiles and think you can analyse them. That is arrogance. You do the same with any topic. You decide how things are and that's that. No proof, no data, no facts, just the chip on your shoulder.  And if you're saying that a martial arts instructor needs to be arrogant, which is what you seem to be saying, you're completely wrong they're too! Until I developed a chronic illness I taught Shaolin Gung Fu. There's no room for arrogance in martial arts. Non at all. 

  • ah yes i tend to ramble and sway too much from the topic, my bringing up ambition was a example of how people misuse words and mislabel themselves as things they are not. which was my way of shooting down the NTs thinking they are like 60% introvert thing, they may think they are that but they are not, much like on pof everyone thinks they are ambitious, but they are not. they merely misuse the word, or perhaps desire to be so but are not.

  • Forgive me if I have misunderstood you, but being ambitious and being extrovert are two different things. Some people are ambiverts also. Arrogance and extroversion are also different. In my eyes anyway. 

    And that's putting even more people into boxes. 

    I think a lot of people probably don't realise or care whether are are introvert,  ambivert or extrovert. 

  • and as for arrogant.... it maybe close but i dont think it matches.

    you see, i was always the runt, the weakest dumbest and most pathetic of my generation. i retained that view, but i judge others by that view.... it kinda makes me criticize weakness when i see it, for if i am the lower tier of absolutely everything and then see that society and everyone else suddenly isnt as hardy or as smart or as strong as i am, then i jump all over that stuff. im supposed to be the bottom rung, i hold society by that standard and expect it to all stay above me otherwise i consider society to be failing and collapsing and breeding weaker people than previous gens.

    so i think arrogance is annulled by my position in my mind as the lowest rung of society, the runt. anyone that falls beneath me deserves a little contempt as theyd be falling beneath a very low bar.

    thinking on this more, perhaps this is the phenomena and mindset of how the bullied eventually turns into the bully?

    edit edit: on furthur thinking, no, this is a good trait to have, i wanna be a kung fu instructor and this is the exact expectancy of betterment that any fitness or martial art instructor would naturally need to have. shame im just crap at explaining things verbally lol

  • aye but what is that data on introvert stats based on? their claims?
    if you go on pof and see the section where it asks "are you amibitious", you find everyone slides it to "highly ambitious".... they dont even fucking know what ambitious means.... if they think they are ambitious then what are they doing? .... stuck in a basic ass job doing nothing all their life? no partner or child at age of 30? ... where is this ambition they claim to have? 

    the problem is people claim to be things that which they are not or have no idea of because they like the sound of it or think its positive, but when you analyse them they are not the thing they claim to be. for me if they are ambitious they need to be really goal orientated and targeted go getters in life with absolute passion and their eyes on any top spot they are going for. most people that lay claim to the trait of ambitious are in no way ambitious at all, therefore we can deduce that we cannot simply take a persons word for something for most dont even know what that word means in the first place lol i guess its more of a case that they want to be ambitious, they want to be seen that way as its a positive trait.... although i dont consider it positive because ambitious people can be arseholes that will easily toss you under a bus for their goals.

    therefore all those NTs claiming to be introverts, i bet they were the same people breaking down and not coping in lockdown and wanting to break lockdown to get in with the crowds again lol we have to bear in mind people adopt these words without knowing these words. or not understanding themselves very much first.

    also they could still feel a tiny bit introverted at times which will make them wrongly assume they are introvert mainly.... when they arnt.... for example, i could say im a extrovert because i now feel that i crave and am missing out on some form of friend circle or relationship and use that to now claim im a extrovert! lol which would be ridiculous but i guess that is a slight extrovert aspect. but.... we are all a little extrovert arnt we? lmao (totally using the topic and flipping it with that)

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  • aye but what is that data on introvert stats based on? their claims?
    if you go on pof and see the section where it asks "are you amibitious", you find everyone slides it to "highly ambitious".... they dont even fucking know what ambitious means.... if they think they are ambitious then what are they doing? .... stuck in a basic ass job doing nothing all their life? no partner or child at age of 30? ... where is this ambition they claim to have? 

    the problem is people claim to be things that which they are not or have no idea of because they like the sound of it or think its positive, but when you analyse them they are not the thing they claim to be. for me if they are ambitious they need to be really goal orientated and targeted go getters in life with absolute passion and their eyes on any top spot they are going for. most people that lay claim to the trait of ambitious are in no way ambitious at all, therefore we can deduce that we cannot simply take a persons word for something for most dont even know what that word means in the first place lol i guess its more of a case that they want to be ambitious, they want to be seen that way as its a positive trait.... although i dont consider it positive because ambitious people can be arseholes that will easily toss you under a bus for their goals.

    therefore all those NTs claiming to be introverts, i bet they were the same people breaking down and not coping in lockdown and wanting to break lockdown to get in with the crowds again lol we have to bear in mind people adopt these words without knowing these words. or not understanding themselves very much first.

    also they could still feel a tiny bit introverted at times which will make them wrongly assume they are introvert mainly.... when they arnt.... for example, i could say im a extrovert because i now feel that i crave and am missing out on some form of friend circle or relationship and use that to now claim im a extrovert! lol which would be ridiculous but i guess that is a slight extrovert aspect. but.... we are all a little extrovert arnt we? lmao (totally using the topic and flipping it with that)

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  • ah yes i tend to ramble and sway too much from the topic, my bringing up ambition was a example of how people misuse words and mislabel themselves as things they are not. which was my way of shooting down the NTs thinking they are like 60% introvert thing, they may think they are that but they are not, much like on pof everyone thinks they are ambitious, but they are not. they merely misuse the word, or perhaps desire to be so but are not.

  • Forgive me if I have misunderstood you, but being ambitious and being extrovert are two different things. Some people are ambiverts also. Arrogance and extroversion are also different. In my eyes anyway. 

    And that's putting even more people into boxes. 

    I think a lot of people probably don't realise or care whether are are introvert,  ambivert or extrovert.