• Replies 37 replies
  • Subscribers 81 subscribers
  • Views 7788 views
  • Users 0 members are here
Options
Related
Hints and tips
  • To quote someone's message, first select/highlight the relevant text, and then use the Quote button that appears
  • To "mention" someone, type @ followed by the start of the forum name, and choose from the list; that person will get a notification of being mentioned

Greenham Common Women.

I Sperg

I've heard a lot of talk this last few years, about the evils of our overlords, but very, very, little in the way of "principles of resistance".

In that vein, I would like to publically salute the Women of Greenham common who endured extreme viscitudes for literally years on end to get a class of foreign theatre nuclear weapons removed from the soil of my country. If any of you have mothers who were a part of that movement, give them a little bit of respect for what they eventually accomplished.

Parents

  • My mother-in-law was a CND member and spent some time at Greenham common. She openly admits to changing absolutely nothing. The country still has nuclear weapons, while dictating to the Middle East and their own nuclear arsenals and weapons of mass destruction!

    If by "removed from the soil of my country" you mean removed from England to set up nuclear submarine base in Scotland, fair enough.

    I've never written Nuclear so many times. I bet there is an alarm going off and a big red light flashing at Mi6 right now!!!Joy

  • in reply to The Riddler

    She may feel she changed nothing (and may well be right, although I am not 100% sure) but at least she got off her behind and took action to TRY.

    As far as I remember she was protesting about American tactical cruise missiles being posted on our soil making us a priority target or initiator of nuclear conflict and those particular missiles were not moved to Scotland as far as I can determine, they were in fact sent back to the country they came from or moved on to a more compliant country. So if she had a different mindset she could claim a small victory in the long war to make our leaders stop setting us up for death & destruction on a large scale.

    Scotland is where they service trident carrying submarines and rotate the strategic nuclear missiles amongst those submarines. A different evil, and you'll notice that the Scots didn't field as much resistance to that event as your mum-in-law did...

    In my life I've seen the British people "protest" about many things, but so far they've only really pushed back against three. C.B. radio denial, Cruise missiles at Greenham common & speed cameras. They were successful in all three endeavours.

    Before the bikers started setting fire to the things and lorry drivers bending them, our leaders were getting ready to roll our double sided, concealed, speed cameras everywhere, and that forced a re-think when they realised that every time the people torched one, (repeatedly in the case of some round here) it cost many tens of thousands of pounds to replace it, and only a pint of petrol plus a worn out tyre to destroy it again. Assymettric warfare, the same way the taliban and other outmatched people bleed what they see as forces of oppression over time until they give up.  

    Fighting oppression is not about killing people, it's about having a steely determination to prevail. Those Greenham common women had that in spades, and I hope your mum in law still has some of it left.

Reply
  • in reply to The Riddler

    She may feel she changed nothing (and may well be right, although I am not 100% sure) but at least she got off her behind and took action to TRY.

    As far as I remember she was protesting about American tactical cruise missiles being posted on our soil making us a priority target or initiator of nuclear conflict and those particular missiles were not moved to Scotland as far as I can determine, they were in fact sent back to the country they came from or moved on to a more compliant country. So if she had a different mindset she could claim a small victory in the long war to make our leaders stop setting us up for death & destruction on a large scale.

    Scotland is where they service trident carrying submarines and rotate the strategic nuclear missiles amongst those submarines. A different evil, and you'll notice that the Scots didn't field as much resistance to that event as your mum-in-law did...

    In my life I've seen the British people "protest" about many things, but so far they've only really pushed back against three. C.B. radio denial, Cruise missiles at Greenham common & speed cameras. They were successful in all three endeavours.

    Before the bikers started setting fire to the things and lorry drivers bending them, our leaders were getting ready to roll our double sided, concealed, speed cameras everywhere, and that forced a re-think when they realised that every time the people torched one, (repeatedly in the case of some round here) it cost many tens of thousands of pounds to replace it, and only a pint of petrol plus a worn out tyre to destroy it again. Assymettric warfare, the same way the taliban and other outmatched people bleed what they see as forces of oppression over time until they give up.  

    Fighting oppression is not about killing people, it's about having a steely determination to prevail. Those Greenham common women had that in spades, and I hope your mum in law still has some of it left.

Children
  • in reply to I Sperg

    No - they were Tomahawk cruise missiles - usually carried by B52 and B1 - but once the submarine-launched version came on line, it was more stealthy to sneak up to your target with a sub and then launch with a much shorter chance for the enemy to be able to prepare.

    It also coincided with the B1 being cancelled - and then production restarted as the B1b - a neutered version of the original B1 not really fit for deep penetration missions - more useful of conventional bombs.