Creative or Low EQ & Logical?

I have noticed that some of my fellow autistics describe themselves in terms of 'creative' or 'empathetic'.

I do not share the creative trait, at least not in visual terms.

I am highly logical and I score very low on the empathy scale (low EQ, which is considered a typical indicator for those on the autism spectrum).

Are you in the 'creative' camp or the 'low EQ' camp?

Are there two kinds of autistic? If not, then how do we reconcile the difference between the creatives and the low EQs?

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  • I just got a 13 score out of 80 on an empathy test.  But not with out verbally suggesting out loud into Thin Air that these tests are silly and seem a bit loaded. First of all, No one can read anyone else's mind. It's literally ridiculous that society reinforces presumption as a virtue when it's the opposite. And somedays I prefer animals or imaginary friends to real ones, but animals are expensive and I love my friends. I'm simply highly selective about the ones I have and care for quite deeply. If I had more money I might have more time to have more friends as they are a big commitment and investment and it's amazing but exhausting knowing and spending time with others. These tests are about relating to the majority of the population on a surface level I suppose.

    However, I don't think there's an Either/Or to this, to be fair. We're human. Logic is an element in the process of creating which is in a way connected to empathy. Empathy can be learned through art and all art can affect one's logic. Logic is a process all humans use to reach conclusions regardless of whether or not they can show the logic of their thinking. 

    I do LOVE logic, especially symbolic. Kant writes in the most beautiful logic but most days I cannot always follow literal path signals or an order of doing a thing without talking through them out loud to myself. I also create. I believe everything is creative / creating. Destruction / deconstruction plays a role in the process of creation like turning the soil and digging up a garden is an act of annihilation for creation. 

    Fun topic tho!

    Added: Emotional vs. Logical is a myth. It's a contorted wording which came from Instinct vs. Reason. (Animal nature vs. Human Reasoning)

  • Very well put.

    There's one part which I totally agree with, and wish to add a side-point to:

    "No one can read anyone else's mind"

    Maybe not read minds, but one can read other signs such as facial expressions, tone of voice, body language, use of certain words etc ... I was a child of a violent parent and as a kid I had to read into these things super quick as part of self-protection. I could tell by the way the front door was closed, the frequency and strength of my parent's breathing, the bluntness of a footstep, and much more as to when was time to shut a bedroom door and basically hide.

    I didn't definitely know when I was about to get hit, but I could predict it with high statistical accuracy based upon some very subtle indications.


    In terms of with empathy. I feel it's like how a dog can sniff out certain things. The dog 'knows' a smell. Sure, the dog can sometimes get it wrong, but generally the right answers come more often than the wrong. My empathy seems to have grown over time I've found. Basically, over time I've become attuned to people. My predictions (initially guesses) about what they're feeling has improved over time and I've got more confident and that's helped me refine my empathy further.

    A similar thing can happen with music training. People can learn to name the right note. With time and practice many people can get better at correctly naming a musical note. There may be extra barriers for some, however, that makes it either very hard or impossible though.

    Empathy can be learned, I believe, by some. As long as the person is getting reliable feedback, then there's decent opportunity to learn/develop it. I also appreciate that there may be some barriers for some people that make learning empathy either very difficult or impossible.

  • So, Sorry to hear about your childhood. I had an abusive parent too. It was chaotic and I was frightened of her. 

    I wish your internal self some new memories. 

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