Autism and gender identity

Autisms got feck all to do with gender identity. Everything bar the kitchen sink gets thrown in with it. Next some idiot is going to say Autism has links with what football team you support like Autistic people are much more likely to support the northern football team in a city than the southern.  Ever think people who feel they are of a different gender can also be Autistic???? Not a stretch is it. Probably not a good idea to talk about this topic on here unless what your really trying to do is ruin some peoples careers by saying the wrong thing about it.

I don't think it's fair to say that autism has nothing to do with gender identity - there are some statistical trends and while they cannot impute causality either way, as you mention, it is clear that in some cases there is an interaction between the two. Whether or not being autistic has a causal effect on the likelihood of someone having a specific gender identity (being transgender, for instance) is not at all clear or established and since autism is so complex and heterogeneous, I would argue that there isn't likely to be a simple, linear causal relationship.

Indeed, we have to remember that autism is not just one homogeneous experience - it is likely that autism results from an interaction between several genes and some environmental influences. So far as I understand (and experience) it, autism interacts with a variety of other conditions (to name just two it could be anxiety or a learning disability etc.)  to create a fundamentally new experience which cannot be reduced to either autism or anxiety, for instance.

On top of all of this, we have the largely socially constructed nature of gender identity and gender expression which undoubtedly has an effect.

There is a rich discussion to be had here, although I will leave it at this!

It could be that autistic people are more likely to come out as LGTBTQ, as we already don't fit in and we don't give a ***. Whereas neurotypicals often stay in the closet due to fear of losing their precious job/status.

We used to edit an alternative lifestyle magazine and a web presence.    I've lived.      I've met a lot of people.     I've recently stepped back because of my situation.

I think you're grossly underestimating the capabilities of autistic people.      Seriously, wherever you find specialists and experts, you find high-functioning ASD people.     And you'd be surprised at what goes on.

This is also where other ASD people are vulnerable because of their innocence - they can be convinced of things and can willingly be led into difficult positions.    

Males can get a bit desperate so not being able to easily interface to girls makes them question lots of ideas about themselves.       It's not a snap decision as you make out - it's over a longer period.

I feel you just make stuff up as you go along (an autistic male can't chat a girl up so he says to himself, oh I'll try a bloke instead. That's not even how homosexuality works mate) You must come from a parallel dimension where Autistic people are completely different to the ones we have here in this dimension.

NAS71674 said:

The reality in my experience is that just like everyone else , LGBTQ people are just as likely to have autism as anyone else no more no less.

That's absolutely not my experience - I'm finding that a significant number of ASD people have difficulties imagining sex and relationships - especially with the other sex.      If they want to try relationships, they often don't have the confidence to interact with the opposite sex so they experiment with same-sex relationships or alternative lifestyles - poly, open, serial / parallel, asexual bdsm - basically, every permutation and combination.

I find girls are often asexual but like to get involved with the 'rush' of bdsm - usually as models, targets or maids to mistress / masters.     It 'suits' them to be sort-of on the outside of being in-deep.  (if that makes sense).    It's all in the mind.

As I said earlier, the lads opt for gay-for-play to get their kicks - especially if they have 'specialist interests'.      Unfortunately, these can be really risky - especially when drugs and alcohol get involved or out-of-control groups.

There's also an enormous number of tv/tx males that can be straight or gay, pan or bi depending on the circumstances.   Testosterone overcomes most blocks to fulfilment.  .

You sound like your trying to hijack Autism for the LGBTQ movement. There is no causal link otherwise we would all be in that. Thats how cause and affect works. The link you provided is just a blog by some person called Lydia.The reality in my experience is that just like everyone else , LGBTQ people are just as likely to have autism as anyone else no more no less.

Haha no, I don't have an agenda. 

Haha no, I don't have an agenda. 

We used to edit an alternative lifestyle magazine and a web presence.    I've lived.      I've met a lot of people.     I've recently stepped back because of my situation.

I think you're grossly underestimating the capabilities of autistic people.      Seriously, wherever you find specialists and experts, you find high-functioning ASD people.     And you'd be surprised at what goes on.

This is also where other ASD people are vulnerable because of their innocence - they can be convinced of things and can willingly be led into difficult positions.    

Males can get a bit desperate so not being able to easily interface to girls makes them question lots of ideas about themselves.       It's not a snap decision as you make out - it's over a longer period.

I feel you just make stuff up as you go along (an autistic male can't chat a girl up so he says to himself, oh I'll try a bloke instead. That's not even how homosexuality works mate) You must come from a parallel dimension where Autistic people are completely different to the ones we have here in this dimension.

NAS71674 said:

The reality in my experience is that just like everyone else , LGBTQ people are just as likely to have autism as anyone else no more no less.

That's absolutely not my experience - I'm finding that a significant number of ASD people have difficulties imagining sex and relationships - especially with the other sex.      If they want to try relationships, they often don't have the confidence to interact with the opposite sex so they experiment with same-sex relationships or alternative lifestyles - poly, open, serial / parallel, asexual bdsm - basically, every permutation and combination.

I find girls are often asexual but like to get involved with the 'rush' of bdsm - usually as models, targets or maids to mistress / masters.     It 'suits' them to be sort-of on the outside of being in-deep.  (if that makes sense).    It's all in the mind.

As I said earlier, the lads opt for gay-for-play to get their kicks - especially if they have 'specialist interests'.      Unfortunately, these can be really risky - especially when drugs and alcohol get involved or out-of-control groups.

There's also an enormous number of tv/tx males that can be straight or gay, pan or bi depending on the circumstances.   Testosterone overcomes most blocks to fulfilment.  .

You sound like your trying to hijack Autism for the LGBTQ movement. There is no causal link otherwise we would all be in that. Thats how cause and affect works. The link you provided is just a blog by some person called Lydia.The reality in my experience is that just like everyone else , LGBTQ people are just as likely to have autism as anyone else no more no less.