Autism is a real disability to some,,,,,,, are you such a person ?

Just a thought i had ,if you class autism as a disability [which there is no denying it can be ],do you class malignant narcissist or psychopath as a disability ,in which case you would have to class half the politicians and business leaders as disabled .

This is so true about the educational system---it hits home for me.

I feel the same way. I had the exact same problem with tying shoelaces & telling time.....I was LITERALLY thinking about that today when I tied my shoes. You will find friends here. violetdr3amer

thats "equity" ----- use it,,,, its a better argument  i was just being naughty 

this link shows it so well

www.mentalfloss.com/.../equity-vs-equality-what-is-the-difference

No, equality is treating people however they need to be treated as individuals to have equal opportunities. That can be by treating people very differently to be fair. 

isnt that what equality is,,,,,,  treat everyone the same ?

Well, that's what I do know. 

psychopaths do have morals.

I'm disabled by people who insist on treating everyone the same and not recognising that sometimes people need different support to excel. 

I dont have qualifications that fully reflect my ability and intelligence because I struggled with education post-primary school. I now see that if education systems had been set up to cater for my needs then I'd have excelled and my qualifications would be different. I'm still doing well, I think a lot of us are very resilient and adaptable, but I could have done more and I find that frustrating. 

This is still continuing in my professional life. I just don't like to admit it  

he was diagnosed as a psychopath. He still is one.  He showed me the actual medical diagnosis printout --- I was about 16 at time ---- i was completely shocked that anyone would show me such a thing, I had to look up what it really meant in my school library. 

It also was the day I decided I had to stop hanging out with him at all.

The police where notified by the doctors and they came to officially warn me, because I was his most regular friend/associate, that he may attack me. He attacked regularly. I cant describe anything he did because they can be used to identify him.  They are pretty unique. 

He has no remorse about any of the people he left badly damaged. One person was left for dead but somehow survived, but he got off murder on mistakes made by the police. By this time I had moved away. He was actively seeking a gun and had joined a terrorist group. They threw him out because he attacked them LOL.  

He was so dangerous, so violent when he fired off, he was a very experienced street fighter and was very strong/fit without going near a gym. He was also very charming. He had many girlfriends and some children.  I have no idea where he is now. 

I doubt he was diagnosed as that - probably one of the coppers said that to him.

Too disabled for friendship....that doesn't even make sense....I'd respond with a hard ignore.

If there was a pill,  I wouldn't want to take it. Despite my foibles and difficulties (which are mostly very internal so doesn't show outwardly)  I wouldn't want a different brain. Yes there are days when my mind is going ten to the dozen, or I get anxiety etc or think why cant i just get on with life like others, but I'd rather keep that if it means seeing the world in the way that I do. It's a trade off I'm happy to keep.

Yeah, Just this morning I had to deal with the same situation on Instagram, It's ridiculous.  

yes i remember you saying  - thats how scaring that is 

Yes, Autism is a disability for me, But it's added to my other disabilities I have Dyslexia, ADD, Dysgraphia, Dyscalculia. I don't let it bother me, But I have had rude people say mean things in the past, One person on Facebook said that I was too disabled for friendship. I wasn't sure how to reponed to that. 

that was his diagnosis.  I remember the day he told me and wanted it explained to him. 

that was his diagnosis, that what he told me, and the police warned me that he was as well

he doesn't sound like a psychopath. More like some one with really poor impulse control.

I guess it is a disability because of the context in which it exists. Like many here I have a high IQ, higher than the average neurotypical by a significant margin. I tend to think of the social impediments and the intellectual impediment of autism as quite separate. If I lost my intelligence some how, became non verbal, lost my powers of memory, perception, abstraction etc. Well I'd want them back, I'd want a pill to restore them to cure that impediment. The social side not so much. Neurotypicals are as incapable of thinking like autistic people as we are of thinking like them. They can't choose to switch on autistic mode any more than we can choose to switch it off. In a hypothetical world with a majority population of high functioning autistic people the neurotypicals would be as lost and out of their depth as we are now. Actually I think in the long term they'd probably do rather better because autistic people are so diverse as a group that we have to be more accommodating of each others differences than neurotypicals.

But just suppose I could press a button to temporarily enable neurotypical mode would I ever use it? Probably, on rare occasions, to navigate the odd awkward conversation, but what is the cost of using that button? If I use it too often are my thoughts really my thoughts? Or are they the thoughts and opinions of others I've been subconsciously internalising they way neurotypical people do with such ease? Its difficult to separate the conscious and subconscious so it's difficult to imagine giving an autistic person the ability to consciously exercise innate social abilities neurotypicals have with out affecting the way they mind works on a subconscious level and I for one wouldn't want that.

Ok well suppose it wasn't a hypothetical button for my brain, suppose it was external. Suppose I had google glass, some kind of heads up display giving me all the information neurotypical brains give them but on a conscious level in the form of diagrams and text. Line a mini AI Daren brown in a pair of glasses. Yes I'd use that. But would it really make my life easier? To an extent. Those awkward conversations with neurotypicals would go a bit more smoothly. But for those awkward people It would help me find anything to say to them they'd want to hear? My internal monolog would still be at odds with the people around me a lot of the time although it would help me know when to keep quiet and back out of situations. I've developed my social life by seeking out places where people share my interests and are generally really open minded and where ever posable thick skinned.

Right now my social life sucks because those places are disappearing. We are becoming a less tolerant more conformist society ... improving my social skills won't change that. I can't help but feel as autistic people we either need to start finding better ways to carve out niches on our own terms or start boosting our influence on the direction society as a whole is going in. From my personal experience neither is very easy.