Suicidal autistic

How about stop thinking about suicide? What is your special interest? Can you take some time out of your life and go and just do that? I find that if I completely cut off any human contact myself for a while then I soon balance out and stop thinking negatively.  How do you know that wouldn't work for you too? I have ASD too and I am EXTREMELY negative and ruminate like mad at times. I have gradually come out of that (I guess its the lockdown maybe thats helped) so if I can and I'm super dark when in that state I'm sure you should be able too as well. Stop looking into suicide related material you will never get your mind off it if you are doing that

I look at Stoicism most days with the app and read Victor Frank when I first got problems. Returned many times but no help.

Desperate for useful way to find. Working on the suicide research  but no support 

Maybe stoicism too. Seneca and Marcus Aurelius

Read Victor Frankel mate. Life is suffering and you must find some meaning in the suffering

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mans-Search-Meaning-classic-Holocaust/dp/1844132390/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1O8WHGAGJY2XQ&dchild=1&keywords=victor+frankel+the+meaning+of+life&qid=1615680668&sprefix=meaning+of+life+vict%2Caps%2C241&sr=8-1

Take up stoicism

I don't really sign up to that - I believe we're just part of nature - like some people have different coloured eyes & skin.      Humans are *THE* apex predator - to ensure our survival, nature has developed a complex status system that requires adhering to a set of surprisingly complex rules so we don't often need to escalate every conflict into bloodshed.

Some people are better at it than others.

I equate it to complex bird dances at mating time - it's all pre-programmed from birth.     I believe that everything humans do in their whole life is just one big mating dance - from social dominance to having a bigger nest (house), having the most food (gluttony) Having the best partner (plastic trophy wife) - and having the most power - ultimately this leads to psychopaths.

We are the balance - we don't play those games - we're the other end of the curve - Gaussian Distribution - it's all balanced.

Yes interesting indeed. I've heard it said here more than once that maybe the ' normies ' are the ones who are ill or that aspies have shown up to change things that aren't working. It's certainly food for thought when you pause to look around and see all the crazy stuff that's considered ' normal '. 

I read somewhere, a couple of years ago ( before I was told I was very likely ASD) that autism is the next step in human evolution. That the variances on the spectrum are natures way of attempting to find the right balance. Some believe that this is happening due to requirements in problem solving that could prevent the end of the human species. A very interesting thought.

As you said, they don't want to be embarrassed. Very interesting research project though, would have been quite enlightening. 

Is that a chat up line? Haha

I was medical research lead for my county, but cant get support for my projects now for various reasons I ask awkward questions that would embarrass authorities.

the latest one was trying to get national support for investigating the % of autistic prisoners whose life ended with suicide and whether they had a bizarre reason to be in prison.

‘twas rejected all round

David, just try new things. You're handsome and specatular.

I think it depends on whether you are completely committed to what you want to do or achieve. Yes there are negatives but there are many positives that actually require that single-minded focus at times. There have been many great writers, composers, artists, engineers, Musicians, scientists and much more who are very likely to have been on the spectrum and/or had other mental health challenges. Einstein, Michelangelo, Mozart, Newton, Edison is just scratching the surface from the past.

It is also common knowledge now that places like NASA have always had AS's working there and that the modern high-tech industries are full of valued employees on the spectrum. 

Single item focus does not mean you cannot work on bringing all the single-focus items or topics together. If that were so, then Michelangelo would never have been able to bring together all the individual pieces of the Cysteine Chapel together or Einstein to bring together his single-item theories of relativity together and not many can write a song without writing one line at a time. Some come together in minutes others take years or decades. 

Adam Smith was said to have been so focused on his work that he was often seen walking the roads in the middle of the night in his pajamas trying to make sense of it all or to bring it all together but he had commitment.  

I'm sure like most subjects, Suicide, will cover a very wide range of sub-topics, studies, causes and perspectives and like most subjects will also lead to other inter-linking subjects and so on. So if you want to help I'm sure there is a role for you somewhere in that.  

You can do the research and anyone can get their research published in a journal. Firstly I would get a book/ websites on how to write a research project, as it will need to be laid out correctly. You will need to decide how you want to collect the info. Also do research on any other journal articles that cover the same topic. Then you can make comparisons with your own research. You will need to consider ethics in conducting the research also. We all love a project we can dive into, so go for it.

CBT is (IMHO) total bullcrap - it's premise is that your thinking is wrong and you need to be fixed - but our thinking is usually based on logic and our solutions to real-life problems - or there not being a viable solution.

It's promoted because we are people pleasers - so when we're put under pressure to tell them that we're magically cured, we are compelled to say yes - even though we shouldn't.   

Another box ticked - a roaring success for on-line self-help at zero-cost or effort for the services and more 'evidence' to show how well it 'fixes' us. 

Exactly. I’m a problem solver and if there is an insoluble one, I’m stuck.

My reading on Cbt is that it is not very effective for asd people.

I wonder if this is a reason why suicide is so common in asd?

• I would like to get a suitable research project done on this , but can’t see how

I think this is why people say CBT can help, but I find it difficult to use the techniques personally. I'm a massive overthinker that can't move on. 

i get that, I always focus on the negatives and still think about times when i was younger where something went wrong.  I know i should let go but i keep dwelling on them.