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If pubs and restaurants shut, how will it change society?

Roswell

What if pubs close in their drives? It could happen. In Bolton in England a total lockdown on pubs has been in place for 2 weeks. That could well be the first town in Britain to basically have no nightlife revolving around alcohol anymore. I wonder what will happen.

Will people go onto illegal drugs more there? Will it become a more sober place? More religious? More spiritual? Will it help or hinder Autistic people?

Personally, I'm not attached to pubs and bars. Nor restaurants all that much. It's probably my Autistic perspective, my particular perspective as well actually, but I've always been and felt excluded in them. I was kicked out of many bars for trivial reasons. I always found them to be cliquish places with overzealous security and lots of men looking for fights.

Restaurants. I just think in this country they're overpriced pretentious rubbish anyway. In places like India and China they have interesting, good street food at reasonable prices that doesn't have all the pretension and phoney status attached to it. Maybe if all those ones go bust in this country we might see more of that kind of thing here. After all, if any establishments are going to survive these restrictions better it will be the takeaways like the old fish and chippies.

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  • The big problem is the cost of doing business in the UK - eating street food in 3rd world countries is playing Russian roulette with your life - literally.- but UK eating places are regulated and have to meet health & quality standards.    This all has to be paid for and wages and premises costs have to be paid so nothing is cheap in this country.

    I can see that lots of independent places will be bled dry and go out of business - but it will still physically exist so a new owner can restart the business if there is a profit to be made.    

    There are lots of political reasons why all this is happening - but I'm not going there.

  • in reply to Plastic

    Yeah, the cost of doing business here is an issue. There are lots of things that need sorting out in this country. London should be the financial capital only. The political capital should be moved to Birmingham or Manchester. The way things are it creates a housing bubble in London and drains money and talent from the country all into one little area.

  • in reply to Roswell

    Did you see the programme about house prices in Manchester recently? As more businesses move from the south and Londoners take advantage of the 2 hour train link, house prices are sky rocketing and pushing out the locals. When HS2 is finished, the same thing will happen the whole way along the route and the locals will then be complaining about, wishing they had never mentioned wanting faster rail links to London.

  • in reply to Roswell

    Agreed....I don't know what's happening to society either.  There's been a rush on homes here in Norfolk as people want to work from home in a lovely environment...they obviously haven't experienced Norfolk broadband yet!  Will they enjoy it long term? who knows....

    HS2 makes my blood boil.  I work with ecologists and many of them have had to try and sort mitigation strategies for the damage that rail line is doing.  There are plenty of rail links shut during the Beeching cuts that would be less destructive to reopen and do more for reviving rural communities.  We certainly don't need better rail links to Birmingham.  It's probably the only city apart from London that you can already reach from any major station in the country...

    Plus with the collapse of city living thanks to COVID it will be redundant anyway....If the closure of pubs, restaurants, clubs, music venues, theatres etc - which is the predominant lure of city living - was to be permanent, there will be no call for cities and commutes at all it seems

  • in reply to The Riddler

    That's mad, I don't know what's happening to this country, it doesn't feel like somewhere I recognise anymore.

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  • in reply to Roswell

    Agreed....I don't know what's happening to society either.  There's been a rush on homes here in Norfolk as people want to work from home in a lovely environment...they obviously haven't experienced Norfolk broadband yet!  Will they enjoy it long term? who knows....

    HS2 makes my blood boil.  I work with ecologists and many of them have had to try and sort mitigation strategies for the damage that rail line is doing.  There are plenty of rail links shut during the Beeching cuts that would be less destructive to reopen and do more for reviving rural communities.  We certainly don't need better rail links to Birmingham.  It's probably the only city apart from London that you can already reach from any major station in the country...

    Plus with the collapse of city living thanks to COVID it will be redundant anyway....If the closure of pubs, restaurants, clubs, music venues, theatres etc - which is the predominant lure of city living - was to be permanent, there will be no call for cities and commutes at all it seems