Hi everyone
I've had a diagnosis in the last couple of years and have got the form in to apply for PIP. Has anyone successfully applied and received this. I've heard it's very much tailored to physical disability and I will probably be refused. Everyone seems to think I should be ready to appeal.
Any thoughts on this would be greatfully received.
I'm another one who scored zero points and still got Zero points at the mandatory reassessment.
I was pushed twice by my local money advice service to apply, and they filled the forms out for me.
The assessor was an ex paramedic, who showed no interest in autism or hidden disabilities, he Just concentrated on the physical such as stretching my arms out and washing etc
It's weird how many people I've heard say that they were assessed by an ex-paramedic (as I was told, too). I can't help wondering whether this is a sad reflection of how undervalued paramedics are these days, or just some kind of stock cover story (the contracted-out assessment companies have been caught red-handed lying about plenty of other things - including what some claimants have actually said or done during their assessments).
Strange, I never noticed it before.
Why ex-paramedics?
Is it a cover story?
I suppose saying, ex paramedic gives the impression that assessor is a medical person, a sort of jack of all trades with extensive experience in all kinds of medical situations.
If in reality they are not ex paramedics, then what medical training do they have? if any?
I learnt long ago while at school to keep my mouth shut, because opening usually ended up with me getting a pummeling off someone. I also learnt a lot of bad habits like manipulation and lying. All of them highly useful in interview situations or while needing someone to pummel someone else for you. School taught me about the world and how fair it is and how to play the game.
I think you guys are just nice people. It is always harder for nice people to play this particular game.
Snap! After so many decades of masking my autism, concealing my difficulties and always deferring to other people is a reflex response that just pops out with barely any conscious awareness of doing it - sometimes before I've even recognised what I'm being asked. I parrot my usual vague, non-committal; "I'm OK", and then minutes later, I find myself thinking; "why did I say that?".
Although it made little difference in the end, I was so glad to have the disability advocate with me during my assessments. I couldn't begin to count the number of times that he intervened because I was selling myself short or answering irrelevant questions. He tried his best to drum into me beforehand that I needed to emphasise the worst of my traits, but I find it an incredibly difficult thing to do when I'm put on the spot and my only thought is; "get me outta here!".
The problem I have is that I'm a people-pleaser - this sort of assessment is massively skewed against me - I will end up agreeing with manipulative assessors. I really not safe to be interviewed in those circumstances.
What im saying to people who go for assessments is they dont just look at the interview. They look at the cameras, how you act while waiting, how you act while walking to the interview room, non verbal and verbal. So be your worst day. if you dont talk to people on your worst day, then dont talk to them, just write stuff down,make it a real nightmare for them and let them feel a small amount of what you have to deal with.
They will happily screw you over, so give them as little chance to do so as possible.
the lego in your sock trick
Brilliant 
You havent tried the lego in your sock trick then?.....makes walking a treat!
I had my assessment recently and am in the awaiting results phase. i havent used any external groups, filled the form out myself and fully expect not to get it. But I also have a lot of other things wrong with me besides the aspergers. I view any assessment you take over benefits as an acting role you are applying for. They will take the piss, so you shouldnt feel guilty about doing the same. From the second you get to the entrance door, you need to imagine your worst day and then enact it for the benefit of every camera. Walk slowly everywhere, look at the ground all the time and never at anyone. Just lay it on thick, because you know what they are like, we all do.
Maybe im a terible person for doing it, but i've navigated this system a number of times in my life and i know what pure honesty gets you in these situations, regardless of your medical proof, its always a no. Even when embellishing the truth, its no guarantee of success, but if it works it will save you months of appeals.
Trained to ask and observe you to: stand up, clench your fist, move your arm out, walk 10 meters,
Trained to ask and observe you to: stand up, clench your fist, move your arm out, walk 10 meters,
I learnt long ago while at school to keep my mouth shut, because opening usually ended up with me getting a pummeling off someone. I also learnt a lot of bad habits like manipulation and lying. All of them highly useful in interview situations or while needing someone to pummel someone else for you. School taught me about the world and how fair it is and how to play the game.
I think you guys are just nice people. It is always harder for nice people to play this particular game.
Snap! After so many decades of masking my autism, concealing my difficulties and always deferring to other people is a reflex response that just pops out with barely any conscious awareness of doing it - sometimes before I've even recognised what I'm being asked. I parrot my usual vague, non-committal; "I'm OK", and then minutes later, I find myself thinking; "why did I say that?".
Although it made little difference in the end, I was so glad to have the disability advocate with me during my assessments. I couldn't begin to count the number of times that he intervened because I was selling myself short or answering irrelevant questions. He tried his best to drum into me beforehand that I needed to emphasise the worst of my traits, but I find it an incredibly difficult thing to do when I'm put on the spot and my only thought is; "get me outta here!".
The problem I have is that I'm a people-pleaser - this sort of assessment is massively skewed against me - I will end up agreeing with manipulative assessors. I really not safe to be interviewed in those circumstances.
What im saying to people who go for assessments is they dont just look at the interview. They look at the cameras, how you act while waiting, how you act while walking to the interview room, non verbal and verbal. So be your worst day. if you dont talk to people on your worst day, then dont talk to them, just write stuff down,make it a real nightmare for them and let them feel a small amount of what you have to deal with.
They will happily screw you over, so give them as little chance to do so as possible.
the lego in your sock trick
Brilliant
You havent tried the lego in your sock trick then?.....makes walking a treat!
I had my assessment recently and am in the awaiting results phase. i havent used any external groups, filled the form out myself and fully expect not to get it. But I also have a lot of other things wrong with me besides the aspergers. I view any assessment you take over benefits as an acting role you are applying for. They will take the piss, so you shouldnt feel guilty about doing the same. From the second you get to the entrance door, you need to imagine your worst day and then enact it for the benefit of every camera. Walk slowly everywhere, look at the ground all the time and never at anyone. Just lay it on thick, because you know what they are like, we all do.
Maybe im a terible person for doing it, but i've navigated this system a number of times in my life and i know what pure honesty gets you in these situations, regardless of your medical proof, its always a no. Even when embellishing the truth, its no guarantee of success, but if it works it will save you months of appeals.
