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Convicted for trying to help suicidal thoughts. Is this appropriate??????

DaveAsperg

I have posted on here before and am keen to get others comments about what the police and a financial company did to me.

In 2012 there was a tax change that affected pensions and all NHS people were advised to get tax advice as to what to do. Financial advisors saw this as an opportunity to ear lots of money and held many meetings , but few doctors needed to takke action to prevent major tax loss. Unfortunately I did and the IFA failed to give me the appropriate safe action which lost me £250,000 and I went into meltdown, feeling suicidal that I had failed my family and my future. The standard medical response is medication and psychotherapy, but this did not help me and I agree with the recent australian action to state that suicide is often not a mental health issue, but is related to financial emotional and other reasons'

I was a computer expert and became involved with the research in to artificial intelligence use in suicide prevention, but there is a great awareness that there is no artificial intelligence use for treating suicidal thinking. So I started researching this and felt that scam websites may be a useful way of throwing a away bad thoughts as per Dr James Pennebaker.

Police arrested me for this despite the fact that I never placed any order, the website is clearly  a fake, scam and I was using it to research throwing away ideas.

They also added in a charge for implied threat of suicide as I felt my life was in danger after a serious cycle accident with MRI brain damage, unable to walk, unable to work but no mention or threat of suicide. It was my doctor that told them about that.

I have run out of options for help I think, but these people are good

http://autisminjustice.org/

Any ideas/ know any media people?

As those on the autistic spectrum are high risk for suicide, this is not right to convict people for trying to get help,  is it?

  • in reply to DaveAsperg

    very true - say nothing

  • in reply to DaveAsperg

    It's very sad. A little understanding would go a long way.

  • in reply to DuckBread

    Thanks I do enjoy the debate, but I feel the police can be really bad towards Aspies. Thanks for your comments. The police hide their dirty washing very well!

    My advice - never speak to police if you are arrested and questioned as they will always try to  interpret autistic behaviour as criiminal

  • in reply to DaveAsperg

    It's terrible that they didn't even investigate your case - very sad story about the man who was tasered too. I'm really not sure what to do for the best, other than to say I'm really sorry for what you're going through.

  • in reply to DuckBread

    In theory yes, but in practice NO. They only investigate about 1 case per week out of the 30,000 complaints each year. Even though there are more than 100 fatalities each year related to police contact, it is virtually unheard of for any blame to be given to the police.

    They have refused to look at my case even though I was nearly killed.

    This story was in the papers a few days ago ; The IOPC found no concern, but the inquest has

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/28/police-tasering-of-man-with-mental-health-issues-contributed-to-his-death

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/31/bristol-man-with-autism-shot-by-police-with-stun-gun

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/26/officer-who-tasered-jordan-begley-guilty-of-potential-misconduct

    Police get let off with no sentence even though they have killed 2 in these clips. Both IOPC investigated

    I feel their role is to support the police and dismiss any complaints, but to look as though they are monitoring and keeping standards. It ois virtually unheard of for them to be critical of police actions (unless they want to dismiss an officer). I feel it is all corrupt - The same was true of the IPCC, which was changed to the IOPC as it was not functioning as it was supposed to

  • in reply to DaveAsperg

    I wonder if the Independent Office for Police Conduct might be worth a try:

    https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/

  • in reply to DuckBread

    Well they did and ignored  the NICE guidance from 2018. 

    1.2 Suicide prevention strategies

    1.2.1 Develop a multi-agency strategy based on the principles of the Department of Health and Social Care's suicide prevention strategy for England and other relevant strategies. It should emphasise that suicide is preventable, and it is safe to talk about it.

    I feel the police have been criminal! But they seem above the law

  • I'm sorry to hear this happened to you. I'm a little confused as to why the police convicted you for 'implied threat of suicide'... I didn't know this was something people could be convicted for (I know people can sometimes be detained under the Mental Health Act for the safety of themselves or others, but I didn't think this would lead to a criminal conviction).

  • in reply to aidie

    Yes convicted for "implied suicide threat; malicious communication" for a 5 second phone call, when I stated my serious head injury and concern about survival. I had already asked my doctor and Samaritans if it was appropriate to make the contact and both said yes. This has lost me £1.5m ended my medical and sporting career and involved a near death accident with permanent multiple major disability  3 days before I was due in court

  • in reply to DaveAsperg

    have you been convicted ? 

  • Maybe even just commenting as to whether you feel the police should be prosecuting people for seeking help when suicidal??

    To me it seems a brutal life threatening thing to do, but I don't seem to get support for this belief even though I was nearly killed in a near fatal racing cycle accident 3 days before I was due in court

    I am amazed that after 24 hours not a singe person has commented.