Art

Oh, that's confusing! I've never really had much time for poetry, other than some I find amusing, I put it down to the ones I studied in school being terrible but I'm wondering now whether that was because I couldn't interpret them how I was 'supposed' to? Also I find poetry much easier to listen to aloud when I can, agree with what you say above about the rhythm, I often struggle to work out what that should be when reading it by myself. I tend to spend more time reading descriptions in galleries too than looking at the pictures, mainly so I have something to do instead of just standing around going 'Hmm, I just don't get it'!

Senor I would love to have contrary opinions on this sort of stuff rather than none at all! I can see how you would find it awkward disagreeing with your family all the time though if they all feel the same way about something and you're the 'odd one out'. 

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Yes, I think it might simply be that appreciation from an early age I've missed out on, rather than anything more inherent. Have added that gallery to my list, I'm definitely going to try harder to find something I like. 

The joy I found in it though was through my own re-imagining of what the shapes could be, rather than what the artist had created. It was very different to what my friend was experiencing. Like DuckBread says though, maybe that's just us as different people, rather than a ND/NT thing. There has been such a range of responses on here that I think there may be as many separate views on art among us as in the general population.

just found this from beyondautismawareness.wordpress.com/.../

"Even the seemingly random splashes of paint that Jackson Pollock dripped onto his canvases show that he had an intuitive sense of patterns in nature. In the 1990s, an Australian physicist, Richard Taylor, found that the paintings followed the mathematics of fractal geometry — a series of identical patterns at different scales, like nesting Russian dolls. The paintings date from the 1940s and 1950s. Fractal geometry dates from the 1970s. That same physicist discovered that he could even tell the difference between a genuine Pollock and a forgery by examining the work for fractal patterns."

Thanks for the suggestions, I've started a google map for them. London just has too many people! I like cities, but little ones. I don't like buses or the tube so prefer to be able to walk everywhere I need to go.

I've wondered whether even his method of painting has something in common with stimming - getting into that zone of hyper-focus and then making instinctive movements into an image.

It sounds like you and your friend just appreciate art in different ways

What you said about poetry mirrors my experience of English Literature at A level. I was under the impression that there was no right answer so answered honestly about, in this case, Philip Larkin poems and how I interpreted them. I was told not to be silly and marked incorrectly in exams. Some of those poems really hit me emotionally.

I obviously don't always get quite the same emotions experienced by others, with works of art. But I'm more than happy to go along with the idea that each and every listener/observer will come away with their own interpretations, based on their own experience. And that might well include some of us being moved by the difficulty of the creation, or it's realisticality; as in the above post. I find it quite possible to appreciate the highly abstract, that which borders on 'photographic', and the actual photographic. There is surely some sort of 'art' in them all.

FL's comment's on poetry remind me that there is actually quite a lot of poetry that can move me, even when I'm not always too clear about the meaning/s (perhaps) intended by the artist or his/her followers.

I reckon my resistance to some poetry is that I don't have quite the same emotional or romantic thoughts running through my mind as other more obviously creative family members. I imagine that my emotions about (say) a 'family' topic are a bit divergent from their emotions. But in trying not to offend those family members by having a possibly controversial difference of interpretation, I just become lost for words, and not able to express the emotions I personally feel, without losing some face with the rest of the family. In fact, I wonder if they really want to hear my different interpretations at all; and think it likely they will just see it as me being deliberately contrary, as a result of my apparently constant need for 'difference'. This reticence might actually explain quite a lot of things; and not just about 'art'.

oh maybe Jackon Pollocks are like a visual stim oh my  thats spooky

I no expert  but how about 

Laing Art Gallery Bury Art Museum & Sculpture Centre

Wish I lived in England I would get to all the big ones in London --- why not London ?

I have never been able to appreciate art aside from in a "that must have been hard to make" way. If I ever visit a gallery, my favourite paintings are those that most resemble a photograph as it's amazing that anyone could paint so realistically. 

I prefer it when there's a description of what the painting is about and what it means. I once went to a gallery with a friend and was completely baffled by the emotions the paintings were evoking in her. I really didn't know what to say as "I feel nothing" would have been creepy!

Equally, I find poetry very hard to understand but it has occasionally moved me, connected with me, even without having the foggiest what it means. I think it's the rhythm and the beat.

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A great deal of what is called art is extremely significant to me. Music particularly so. And yet, I am really quite utilitarian and austere in my tastes when it comes to things in my home environment.. The rest of my family are interested in things like creative writing, poetry, and painting watercolors, But I hardly ever actually create anything which isn't largely utilitarian in purpose. And in my capacity as an articled wood butcher, I greatly appreciate stuff like Shaker furniture. My musical interests tend to be often quite bizarre and wide-ranging, however. (That's really what sends me!) And although I was quite adept at writing poetry in school, I find these days that I have no great appreciation of poetry. ( Much as I have never really understood or appreciated religion, despite numerous attempts to better inform me.) But decent prose does have its attractions!

I remember back in the 60s being taken to a local meeting, at which a local artist had compiled a rather good slideshow presentation on what might be called impressionist art. It was great to be primary school age, and be very welcome to attend what was basically an art appreciation session compiled for adults and amateur painters. Turners and French impressionists figured heavily. A T.S. Lowry landscape was flashed up on the projector screen, and I thought almost immediately that this was the most compelling picture I had seen that evening; Particularly as it clearly depicted to me a familiar landscape in the town where I lived. (Some of the adults still hadn't realised it was painted locally.) It transpired that a local barber and amateur painter was a close friend of Lowry, and that Lowry regularly visited the locale. I have never really forgotten that, and the next time I'm in Manchester it would be great to visit The Lowry.

Doubtless, this post was partly inspired by the current film about Lowry with a greatly thinned down Timothy Spall. His movie about Turner I found quite fascinating. So I guess I have also begun to get Turner better in recent years; although his work was obviously quite striking to me even then.

I don't get art either - the world is full of beautiful things that stir emotion in me.    There's lots of man-made things that blow me away - mainly engineering achievements.    I think the classic 'picture on the wall' type art is very limited but there's lots of sculpture and music that trigger things in me.    

Feeling joy about a piece of art is just as valid as your friend seeing frustration or passion or hope.

I can go round a gallery or museum and nothing stands out at me, I can go and am on board with the whole exhibition, or I can go and just find one piece which blows me away and I might not be able to understand why. I find joy in the nostalgic or whimsical. I'm covering all types of visual art in this including photography. You might just need to find out what makes you tick. Equally if it's of no interest,  don't force it. I'm not particularly into sport of any kind so don't bother with it.

I studied history of art, but often I don't understand modern abstract pieces until I've read the information about it. 

Yes, I'm fascinated by illusion type images too! I much prefer geometric shapes and patterns over looking at anything else, I think I feel more comfortable with those too because I'm not expected to take anything else from them. I probably have never really appreciated art becuase I'm too busy looking for what it is I'm missing... am glad you can get past that and enjoy the images for what they are.

I enjoy looking at art, and a fair few of the books in my collection are art books, though I don't get to galleries very much these days. I'm not sure that I really emotionally connect with art, though. I think I enjoy it more as a kind of visual stimming, just for the effects that the colours, patterns, textures, etc. make on my mind. There is a lot of figurative art that I do like, but I tend to enjoy abstract art more - and when I dabbled in a bit of painting myself, I mainly painted abstracts. I also have a liking for art where the "message" is more of an idea than a feeling - things like M.C.Escher's prints of impossible geometry, or Magritte's games with how we perceive images.

However, I can get much the same pleasure from poring over a well drawn map or engineering drawing, and I enjoy dabbling with software for drawing fractals derived purely from mathematical equations. So I don't really distinguish between art which is meant to have emotional content and images which aren't meant to have any at all.

That's interesting, so when you get it there's quite a strong reaction, but very rare? It may well be that I've just not found my 'thing' yet, I suppose our city museum doesn't have that much variety, and when I go it's with another person which is distracting. I might've found a purpose for my next adventure weekend away! :D Any reccomendations (in the UK, accessible by train and not London!) that have a decently wide range?