Different threads in music

Not particularly related to ASD except that we all seem to love music so much & it's something positive/happy that I thought I'd share:

I sometimes absolutely love paying attention to the bits of music that most people probably don't notice, for example focussing on just the bass guitar, or the hi-hat, or the little twiddles and odd sounds that get thrown into the mix here and there. Sometimes gives me goose bumps.

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  • Me too - I disassemble records in my head to understand the styles of each of the musicians.

    I particularly like the missing notes where the other music around a space creates a false impression in your brain that a note has actually happened - but it's not there - it's a space - you're brain doesn't like the gap and wants to hear it so creates a phantom note - every time.

  • As an aside, I find that reading scientific papers like the one I linked to can be so easy, with the meaning flowing at high rate into my brain quite effortlessly, whereas if I read fiction I sometimes just don't get sentences despite reading them several times. As an example, "The analysis of low-frequency phase locking at soundless strong-beat positions enabled us to further disentangle the manifestation of neural synchronization from stimulus-driven evoked responses." makes instant sense to me, and I know that many people would find it to be nothing but a jumble of long words.

  • Yeah - technical documents are much easer to read - only the big words are important - the rest is just filler and bridging/linking words to hold it together.

    Fiction is difficult - so many words, so little content and it can change direction within a sentence.   Hate it..   Sometimes have to read the same page a couple of times to 'get it'.

    Give me a Haynes Manual any day.

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  • Definitely an interesting topic............I think you quite rapidly lose something as you start to strip things away (although if the music were quite simple to start with maybe.....). A bit like (if I remember my chemistry) acetone smells like pear drops - but wouldn't compare to an *actual* bag of pear drops, especially if smelled whilst standing in an old-skool sweet shop............

    There's something about the "space around notes", where you get a sense of the acoustic environment revealed by the decay and reverberation - & probably parts of the music that audiophiles used to berate mini-disc for (ATRAC coding?) taking away.

    Psychoacoustics is both a lovely word and an interesting topic!

  • Yeah - but doing the Fourier Analysis and stripping out all of the harmonics to pare it down to maybe 5 or 6 basic tones - just how much can be stripped out and still get the same effect.

  • Well in one sense, it *is* a selection of sine waves - just many of them, superposed with the appropriate phase and amplitude. They are certainly masters, especially when using music to pull in the opposite direction to the visual.

  • I think the people who do good film scores are the masters of using our emotions against us.    I suspect it's the visual stimulus as well - but the music can crank my emotions around at will.

    I wonder if it was just a selection of Sine waves, would it have the same impact?

  • Hehe. 100% agree on that. I haven't read a fictional book since school when I had to. It just doesn't sink in and takes far more effort than it is worth, yet I love reading reference and technical material.

    On the music front I find different music causes different emotions, regardless of the style or lyrics, etc. I love playing the keyboard and find certain keys and styles let me get emotions out.

    My theory on this is that we have a deep seeded subconscious relationship to sounds and sequences of sounds that we probably used before we discovered a word based language.

    I keep experimenting to see if I can minimise the emotional sequences to the bare minimum with a strong impact. I am sure there is some researched science on it somewhere but haven't gone down that route yet.

  • Yes, and the filler / bridging words in that sentence above are pretty much "The of at to the of from" - in other words 7 out of 27 words;  26%.