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DSM-V - Diagnosed But Would Now Not Be

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I'm assuming with the DSM-V criteria, there are people out there who have been diagnosed but would now not be?

The reason I say this is that one of the criteria is that it must limit you on a daily basis; that means that all those on Youtube and on the forums who say they had no idea they were autistic would surely now not be diagnosed?

Where I'm going with this is I suspect I'm autistic but that the extent won't be enough for a diagnosis. So, is it therefore possible nowadays to be autistic but receive a formal diagnosis that you're not?

I'd have thought that you either are, or are not autistic, but of course it's a spectrum and it seems, (possibly because of increased awareness and pressure on the NHS) that the medical experts you see will know you are autistic but send you home with a diagnosis that you're not if it's mild.

Seems a shame but that's how it's shaping up to me.

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  • I don't think you should take this too literally.

    Limiting you can cover all sorts of problems.  There are two models of disability, the social model and the medical l model.  And e medical model is being replaced in many oeganisations involved with disability, including the EU and the UN.

    Mist autistic people are socially disabled but not medically.  And thus hasnt changed one bit.  We have daily social misunderstandings, delayed comprehension, fixed ways, sensory overload.  The reason many of us havent realised we are autistic until later life is that we have always been that way and adapted to accept it.  But these things then manifest themselves in mental issues such as anxiety, depression and stress and withdrawal. 

    I have no doubt that if you have been assessed under the old criteria you would be under the new.

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  • I don't think you should take this too literally.

    Limiting you can cover all sorts of problems.  There are two models of disability, the social model and the medical l model.  And e medical model is being replaced in many oeganisations involved with disability, including the EU and the UN.

    Mist autistic people are socially disabled but not medically.  And thus hasnt changed one bit.  We have daily social misunderstandings, delayed comprehension, fixed ways, sensory overload.  The reason many of us havent realised we are autistic until later life is that we have always been that way and adapted to accept it.  But these things then manifest themselves in mental issues such as anxiety, depression and stress and withdrawal. 

    I have no doubt that if you have been assessed under the old criteria you would be under the new.

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  • in reply to Trainspotter

    Sorry about the smellings, my fingers are two big for my tablet and the wrong letter appears!

  • in reply to Trainspotter

    That's good to hear. I think I just need to have the diagnosis and not keep questioning myself in the build up to it. I know I have enough symptoms to warrant a diagnosis; challenges in terms of 1:1 communication - unable to make small talk, staring when trying to make eye contact and not knowing where to look on a person's face, no facial expressions or interest in my voice when I speak; all very flat, trying to end a conversation asap, trying to turn a conversation towards my interest and then getting too loud and passionate and going off on one about my interest; terrible anxiety especially supermarkets and restaurants; obsessive interest in birding, ("twitching") and collecting things; sensory issues with touch; dry soil on hands, unable to wear rings/watches; constant stimming activities, both physical and mental (e.g.drawing eights and ampersands and erasing them in my mind if wrong). These are just a few of my traits and yet I still doubt myself because: I can read faces, I have empathy, (too much at times - I'm over emotional), I understand where to appropriately stand in conversation; I don't get sensory pain; yes I have to leave a room if it's noisy and prefer natural light to neon especially meetings at work in winter, but actual pain I certainly don't get pain in the true sense of the word. I don't know. We'll see.......