Neurotypical difficulties (if all the world were Aspie...)

When I found out I was Aspie", after reading all about the difficulties we have, I wondered what difficulties neurotypical people experience. As an avid observer of human behaviour for decades, with an interest in sociology and politics, I knew life wasn't all plain sailing for them. I saw evidence of conflict, abuse, insecurity, relationship breakdown, destructive jealousy and ruthless competition. I read the book "A Field guide to Earthlings" and gained more information about their neurological and social development .

I wonder if any psychologist has studied neurotypical development and behaviour in terms of social deficits? I don't mean mental health conditions like schizophrenia, sociopathology, etc. I mean in the way Autism is studied, applying the same sets of behaviour to a huge group of people with a diverse set of traits and personalities, lumping them together with the same description and classifying their behaviours as "defecits" or "difficulties".

I'm not anti-NT. I get on well with colleagues who are not autistic and I sometimes rely on one or two trusted individuals to confirm if my ideas about what other NTs may be thinking of feeling are correct, to prevent misunderstanding. But what if the world were mainly Autistic? What if only 1% of people were neurotypical? (The world would probably be much quieter Grin for one thing, but anyway...) Here are some extracts from an article taking a wry look at how "neurotypical syndrome" might be described if most people were autistic...


DSM-IV code 301.27: Neurotypical Personality Disorder

Diagnostic criteria and Symptoms
* Blindly follows social conventions without even pondering if those are good for their being or even useful at all. This is the most determinant factor for diagnosis.

* Can’t be alone for a period of one hour or more without feeling depressed or bored, for this reason needs constant communication with their fellow individuals. This strong need has carried to the invention of phenomenons such as cellphones and  Facebook.

* Needs to attend to social gatherings on discrete periods of time to reinforce the need of belonging to a group. The elapsed time between gatherings differ between individuals, ranging from one hour to one week, at most. The most common form of these gathering is the so called “party”, although is documented that others exist. May this individual be shunned from his/her group for any cause (for example, not dressing the appropriate manner) they may suffer from, but not limited to: severe depression, irritability and/or substance abuse.

* Is prone to unnecessary small talk. Some of those talks may appear suddenly and/or randomly.

* Suffers from ranging levels of Hypocrisy, a concomitant disorder that makes the individual do fake smiles, lie and/or cheat on a constant basis and try to get above other on their imaginary “social ladder”  

* The mentioned “social ladder”, a delusion that some individuals have power over others based on amount of money, clothing, skin color or other perceived factors.

* Gets heavily exited over trivial things like World Football Cups, religious gatherings or the sight of another neurotypical individual they consider “charismatic”, like a singer or actor.

* Have a constant and inexorable drive to fulfil their needs and obtain pleasure in fields like travel, multiple sexual partners, heavy drinking and other auto-destruction activities. 

* Suffers from a delusion that all of the above alarming symptoms are "normal" and that any other individual that does not present them is mentally ill, unstable or suffer from a disorder and needs medication and therapy ASAP.

This is a spoof description of neurotypicality (my spell checker just tried to change neurotypicality to "superficiality" !!??) and is meant to be light hearted,  not condemning. I posted it to give food for thought to those Aspies/Auties who are struggling with their " condition" and feeling that they are defined by these "difficulties" in Autism diagnosis and possibly that they are " abnormal ", or there is something wrong with them that they need to change. Reading about the double empathy problem has helped me understand what I had guessed at - NTs have just as much trouble "reading " & understanding us as we do them. 

  • Hi Tiny Exp!orer, yeah you have to have a sense of humour to help you deal with life, don't you! Grin 

    What you said about giving advice has got my mind ticking over with some strange scenarios. It's difficult to predict what we'd all be like if things were reversed. Would we (NDs) still have meltdowns? Would we have created a world in which the sensory inputs were dimmed down, with silent electric vehicles moving gently down the road and no music or tannoy announcements in shops? Would nightclubs exist? And how would NTs adapt, considering they enjoy socialising and are programmed to fit into a social group with a hierarchy? Would they start their own groups?

    Here are my fantasy ideas of how a neurotypical support forum might look:

    - Hello, I have a young daughter who is being assessed for NT disorder. She likes dogs, but despite me buying her a book on dog breeds she shows no interest in learning the difference between them. The other day she called a Bichon Frise a poodle, and when I corrected her she got quite upset. I have bought her some plush toy dogs but instead of lining them up nicely on her bed or dresser in order of size or breed, she insists on dressing them up in clothes and pretending to serve them imaginary tea. Is this behaviour common for a child with this condition?

    - Hi, I'm a guy in my twenties and I've started to think I may be on the NT spectrum. I have joined a Football club and I go every Saturday to a local field where we get into two  groups known as teams and we kick a ball about, trying to get it into a net more times than the other team. I don't talk about this at work for fear of sounding weird, as all the other guys either don't talk about what they do outside of work, or talk endlessly about the usual hobbies - train spotting, computers, sci fi, etc.  If I try to engage them in light conversation about the weather or  how their family are, they give me a strange look and either reply "yes, it is cold" / "they are ok thank you" and then get on with their work, or launch into a monologue about the different types of cloud formations. I feel like nobody understands my needs - should I try to get a diagnosis?

    To everyone - ND or NT - reading this, please take it in a spirit of fun. I do not mean to offend anyone, I'm just  letting my imagination run wild (sometimes that gets me into trouble!). Anyone else have any ideas about what a predominantly Autistic world might look like?

  • I don't know.  I am so lost.  I think I just have to accept everything wrong in life ...is just how life is.  What advice can you give when doing what is right, is wrong?  

    (i.e. - when we grow up as very young children, our teachers tell us a single lie must be covered by thousands of lies.  Imagine how many lies we live in now...just to cover that original lie!)

  • Lol

    This topic is always funny @Pixiefox

    What if only 1% of people were neurotypical?

    I think it is covered in this book : Chown, N. (2016). Understanding and evaluating autism theory. Jessica Kingsley Publishers.

    It stems from double empathy theory - they would not develop effective social communication because they would not connect properly to the majority, so would have a disorder. Basically another autism. This is the theory in the book.

    On a serious note, what are difficulties NT have connecting to autistic people?

    Like if they were a 1% minority, what advice would you give them? Does and donts?

  • When I say shunned by speaking out - mostly by my parents and family.  Otherwise, I don't speak, speak out.  If that makes any sense.

  • This is so awesome.  I am new to this world, and I can't believe what I'm reading today!  This is the world that surrounds me, and I'm disgusted.  I have always been shunned for speaking out, but I finally feel at home where people are brave enough to share and express similar beliefs.  The question is: who is right - us or them?  Thank you for sharing!  I feel like I have been wandering aimlessly, but your words are helping me.  Do share more.

  • ...Greetings to "PixieFox". Believe it or not, this has been covered a few times in this Forum before. Have a look at this Thread, please, linking to an answer from some unknown Woman (!), which gives lots of other links to outside this Forum:

    https://community.autism.org.uk/f/adults-on-the-autistic-spectrum/15076/omatistic-spectrum-disorder/106190#106190

    ...Also, just type "Neurotypical Disorder" into a Browser. Have fun reading the other Thread, and all of the links...!

    NTs have just as much trouble "reading " & understanding us as we do them. 

    ...Yes, of course. EVERYONE is different. And to end My Post here... other answers may be what You seek, if what I put here is not.