Reflections on Diagnostic Appointment

As you can see from my little thread under I've got my appointment, I had my diagnostic appointment at Surrey and Borders Partnership yesterday.

Mine was a cancellation appointment, so the usual process of filling in questionnaires weeks before the date was compressed into 30 minutes in the waiting room. This was OK if a little rushed but the staff were keen to point out that anything I didn't get through could be done after the appointment, so the only pressure was that which I was putting on myself.

My wife came into the interview with me, and was able to help me answer some questions by reminding me of anecdotes and telling stories from her perspective.

Almost the first thing the lady interviewing said was that I wouldn't get a diagnosis that day. This was unexpected compared to what I had heard from others, but now I'm thinking that this might be because they didn't have chance to read my answers to the questionnaires and form some judgements, focus questions etc. before the meeting.

So the interviewer is going to collate my written answers and her notes from the interview (she took loads on a laptop), write a report, and present it at an upcoming monthly meeting with the "multifunctional team". I should have an answer in 6 weeks or so. At least this is a fairly certain and short wait compared to the open-ended 14 months I've waited so far!

The answer that I will hear will be, apparently, one of: 1) positive diagnosis, 2) a note of “difficulties”, 3) need for further tests, 4) signpost to something else, or 5) “you’re perfectly normal”.

To make a positive diagnosis there has to be a "functional impact" on my life. I'm not sure I will reach the bar for this, which partly feels a little unfair because I feel that I'm the one doing all of the work to overcome my traits to *stop* them having a functional impact. Maybe the fact that this is even *possible*, correctly excludes me from a diagnosis. Who knows :-).

I learned something new too though, explaining some of the confusion around "everyone is a bit autistic". If you dig deep enough (and the lady interviewing me did exactly this), you can differentiate between effects caused by autism and the *same effect* caused by something else. This aligns with that classic analogy used to explain the falsehood of "everyone's a little autistic" which goes along the lines of "Person A suffers from morning sickness; she's pregnant. Person B says 'hey I get morning sickness too - does that mean I'm pregnant?'. Person A says 'No, that's because you drink too much every night and by the way you're male!". So the examples around "autistic" symptoms that came up yesterday were 1) following rules because you fear the consequences of being caught vs being unable to conceive that breaking rules is possible, and 2) sticking to a daily routine because it's a useful way of delegating choices to the subconscious and lightening the load on the conscious mind, vs being rigidly stuck to a daily routine and highly distressed if this is threatened.

I don't know if I'm explaining the differential diagnosis stuff above accurately - I'm not the expert! But that's the kind of learning I took away.

In all I spent three hours or so talking about my life, with quite a bit of digging into my memory of childhood (ASD as we know is a lifetime condition and it's important to be able to pick out the thread, even if the impacts / symptoms vary over time). I didn't come away with too many "I wish I had mentioned X or said Y a little differently"; there were *some*, but I'm sure she got enough to form an accurate picture on the whole. I left a bunch of writing that I had done over the last year or so, summarising and explaining the impact on me and the basis on which I self-diagnosed, which she was grateful for and seemed to intend to go through "with a fine toothed comb".

Hope that helps give some insight into the process and *why* they ask what they ask & form the opinions that they do.

  • I really like the way this is written it reflects my thoughts after I went 

  • I have recently had my initial assessment aswell, thank you for your insight, I find it sometimes difficult to write  stuff down articulately but you have explained it well,

    can differentiate between effects caused by autism and the *same effect* caused by something else

    I love this, because I hate it when people say we are all a little autistic, or we all get all get a little overwhelmed , stressed etc. It is most definitely not the same like when am overwhelmed I go into physical paralysis and can not function physically at all, I cannot just snap out of I- I need to sleep it off or my anxiety is though the roof.

    I did have quite a bit of I should have mentioned x,y,z because I couldn't think of examples of when for examples I took something literally even thou I always do, my mind went blank when it went into examples.






























  • Sure.

    I work for myself and have done for about 15 years now because I cannot tolerate working for other people. The hardest thing is having my schedule messed about with. It takes me so long to start tasks (I lack executive function) that sometimes means I'll spend a day working out what needs to be done, and then spend four days working 16-18 hour days doing it all. My wife was on maternity leave until January so I could just get on with working whatever pattern I liked but now she has gone back to work everything is meticulously planned so that the boys are taken care of. 

    This in itself has proven very challenging. I cannot easily switch between looking after the boys and doing work. On some days, I have had to reduce my objectives with the boys to little more than making sure they are safe, clean and fed. Last week I couldn't even get them in to the garden as I just couldn't handle the change of cleanliness and safety aspects in the garden. I needed much more time to have worked it all out.

    So I can deal with it, even within a meltdown, because I have to. I can reason that the need of the boys is more than the need of myself no matter how damaging to me. I am scared of pushing it though because I imagine there is probably a breaking point. I fear how close I have gotten to it because I have found myself crying in a dark room within minutes of my wife getting home once I could 'hand the boys back' to her. I'm sure she didn't want the boys forcing on her the second she walked through the door - that's what the TV shows tell me anyway! But ultimately I could take not one second more.

    The thing that really infuriates me though is when the plan changes. We are lucky in that some days the boys are looked after by my wife's family who have always been willing to help. However there is an acceptance that because I work for myself that my time is malleable to the needs of a situation. So when Granny gets held up on the motorway for half an hour, then it's not a problem, or when they want to drop the boys back early so they can go to dinner, the pub, or a concert then it's OK. It's really not. I just can't deal with it. and then I just can't deal with their attitude towards it. 

    I don't know enough about my diagnosis yet to be able to explain everything to her .... so picking up little cracker jacks of information like this will be relayed and really will help her to understand why it's not acceptable

  • No problem :-) can I ask what your experience of it is?

  • sticking to a daily routine because it's a useful way of delegating choices to the subconscious and lightening the load on the conscious mind, vs being rigidly stuck to a daily routine and highly distressed if this is threatened.

    Thank you SOOOOO much for writing this! I've been struggling to explain this to my wife. Here it is in words. THANK YOU!