Immigration anomaly

As long as I have paperwork that declares my disability, I consider it beneficial regardless where the assessment is taken. 

The only concern is where I am mentally right now. I have received a lot of quality help. I use the NeurOptimal on myself at least twice a week. However, it hasn’t done anything towards that I can’t help that I obsess. 

I have reached a normalized life, but wait until I go to work. It completely changes when I have to work at a mentally unstable workplace.

I am incredibly resourceful and learned how to use the hierarchy of an employer/business. I have what it takes to report bad managers, but that isn’t my job. If I end up doing that, it means my workplace is not stable for my disability. My goal is to find employment where I do not have to return home obsessing what happened to me at work. I am not interested in that because I’d rather be self-employed instead of bouncing around mentally unstable workplace to mentally unstable workplace.

 I have the education and the emotional intelligence to be a really great manager, but I don’t have the experience to be a manager. In addition, I will have to answer to a manager above me. 

On the other hand, I need something that is going to challenge me and keep me challenged. I encounter my disability after I have mastered a job. When I reach that point, my mind will wonder and I will find something to obsess about to keep myself challenged. I am such a workhorse in that regard. I wish employers understood that, especially someone who assesses me. Wait until I find a problem, and then you will discover what happens to me.

 I can obsess about global warming, and I’ll find solutions. I can obsess about immigration, and I will find solutions. I can obsess about BREXIT, and I will find reasons why you should and should not do it. 

I’ll do NeurOptimal as my private practice. I’ll get wellbeing coaching in case people aren’t open to the NeurOptimal, so that I am not entirely reliant on the NeurOptimal as the service I provide. On the other hand, I would love to create a living off of helping solve problems. 

It may be a slight digress from the main topic, but your question about immigration and disability made me wonder about whether different countries acknowledge the diagnosis if you have got it from a different country? Would you need to get a re-assessment after you move to a new country?

(1)  Since the training required to make a diagnosis can be so different around the world. Would a country that has a higher qualification criteria for the diagnostician have problems if you get your diagnosis in a country where the diagnostician qualification is lower? 

(2) Since the US uses the DSM-5 for diagnosis guidelines, whereas many parts of the UK and EU use the ICD-10. In DSM-5, Aspergers no longer exists as a separate diagnosis, but it still exists in ICD-10. So if you get an Aspergers diagnosis in the UK, would it be a problem if you go to the US?

You seem to know a lot about different countries!

I haven't thought that much about health insurance. I had assumed if you work in a company in America, your employer would help sponsor your health insurance?

Have you been to the UK before? It might be a good idea to see how it is like living here for a few months before considering immigration. 

Canada recently passed immigration laws that are inclusive to the disabled. If I wasn’t here to experience the U.K.’s music industry at the same time, Canada would be higher on my list compared to the U.K.

As a musician that considers himself a student to music, I am aware that the Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, and other top acts have originated from this music industry. 

As for you interest in America, I would wait for universal healthcare. Healthcare is way too expensive in the United States. It is not even worth it. The cost for health insurance is still rising. If you wind up in the hospital beyond your own means, the bill will completely blow you away: “Why is it so expensive?!?!”

DragonCat16 said:

At least in North America, people are usually polite and at least try to be helpful, for the most part. Here in the UK, many people can't even be bothered with basic manners anymore, and forget about fair treatment at work, which is reserved for those who are socially adept (i.e. good at manipulating others).

That's really interesting. I haven't had that much experience of north American culture, but I definitely can feel what you are saying about the UK. I'm currently having a difficult time at work (well grad school) because of unfair treatment, it seems that those who are socially adept (i.e. good at manipulating others) get the best deal. You've summarised very well what I have been experiencing. 

I think I would like to visit America because I have heard many good things about it, particularly it's scientific advancement and work environment. But I also have fears about safety mainly due to the loose gun control laws Dfactor mentioned. 

There is nothing personal about making you aware that you are the one who has to stop using the forum.

Failing is not a bad thing, by the way. You learn more from your failures compared to your successes. Failing leads you somewhere. Success is not a good indicator of progress. Failure is a much better barometer.

I have chosen to go, life is too short.

But I saw your post and it raised a lot of questions, so I asked them, objectively and pragmatically.  

I won't dignify your judgements of me with a reply to them, amusing and wrong as they are. 

They say that someone is failing when they get personal.... 

I didn’t realize I was talking to you who wrote and started the JUMPED OR PUSHED? thread.

With all due respect, I just want to point out that if you really don’t want to be in this forum and don’t want to fit in, why are you spending your time here? Time is more valuable than the money you make. You do not have to be here.

You asked to have your account deleted. You don’t have to wait for it to be deleted. All you have to do is stop using and perusing this forum. 

This might be the last post you read here. All I can ask of you is to invest in yourself. This is the purpose of this forum. This is a community to help each other invest into our loved ones with autism or Asperger’s syndrome, or for yourself if it’s you who has it. How you use these forums determines what you get out of it. 

Come and go when you please. These forums are always here. It just doesn’t mean you always have to be here. 

Slow down.

He did not consent, so NeurOptimal was not done.

I have many more questions but I will stop and ask no more.

Dfactor said:

I would have to get a testimonial from them.

A testimonial? for what? unethical practicing on a non-consenting boy?!

Dfactor said:

By the way, the son did not consent to the NeurOptimal.

This is very disturbing ethics.  

Dfactor said:

I don’t think you have done any research on NeurOptimal.

I was told about it a lot of years ago. 

Last year it was shown as part of a documentary and was inconclusive. I did some more research on it after the programme and it was inconclusive.  I wasn't impressed and that is why I didn't mention NeurOptimal, I was politely ignoring the (in my own opinion) insignificant waste of money.

Rather your head/brain and money on Neuroptimal practice than mine. 

Dfactor said:

By the way, the son did not consent to the NeurOptimal.

Ethics?

I do not like that you conduct your practice on non consenting clients.

I asked for my account to be deleted recently so I won't be here for long.

I stand corrected, I should have said obsessions not anxieties. 

Oh you are here already? your posting was confusing as to whether you were wanting to come here or were here already. 

Did I mention anything about NeurOptimal? No I didn't. Because I am generalising about the situation and not focussing on anything. 

A chance meeting with a family is not a local council change or a government policy achievement, that is what I was talking about.

Why not campaign for those services in the US and get the UN involved in that and make America great for the disabled?!   

Dfactor said:

I recognize that the U.K. is a mess right now.

....aaaannnnd you are here to save us! well praise be and amen to that!

So how do you think the U.K. can accommodate more disabled when the local councils can barely provide facilities and resources for the many disabled they have? Not to mention all the workplace adaptations and corporate acceptances?! 

How? what? when? results? something more concrete than the pie in the sky you are offering? 

There are people fleeing ethnic cleansing, war torn countries, girls being trafficked as sex workers, modern slavery, people in extreme danger and you have a sense of entitlement just because you don't like your present government that you could ride out for a few years until the next one is elected and you don't get things there that you would get here....mmmm.  So why not put your desire to campaign for the disabled to use in the US to help yourself and your fellow Americans instead of just helping yourself by way of bailing out on your fellow Americans?  I don't get it, when you believe you can do so much for disabled that you won't do it for your own country.  

I don’t think you have done any research on NeurOptimal.

I have befriended a couple families here. One of them has a son with Asperger’s and ODD. The mother asked me to meet and talk to their son. By the way, the son did not consent to the NeurOptimal.

After meeting and talking with him several times, I asked his father if I had made any impact or difference on his son. He told me he has seen a big difference in his son. Quote: “I wish he had met you ten years ago.” I would have to get a testimonial from them.

I have an emotional intelligence that I never had while growing up and as an adult until I started the NeurOptimal for myself (which I have been doing for 3 years now). I have confidence in myself to be a life and wellbeing coach. 

I recognize that the U.K. is a mess right now. My country is no different. No country is perfect. There is violence and crime everywhere. Nowhere is safe because of terrorism.

There is a looming financial crisis on the horizon. I have two choices:

A: Take all of my money out of my accounts, find somewhere I can live off the land, dig a hole and put my money in a chest so my money is safe from the coming economic collapse. Wait it out for ten years.

B: Live. Build the career and life I want to live. Contribute. Educate and fight to try and stop the coming economic collapse. Enjoy my life to the fullest. 

I choose B. I am going to die someday. I don’t know when. I’d rather live than let die.

I have done my research on London. I am living in a town that is the perfect balance of “everyone knows everyone” and within the vicinity of the town center.

I have absolutely zero anxieties. 

I am loving London. I am loving the people. I am loving all the different accents and cultures. I have not had to experience the extremism except for one delayed train due to an altercation that occurred somewhere else.

Why? First, I want to experience the music industry here. Second, I know I have not faced the challenges and the button pushing that can happen in a relationship. There are resources here that I, or my future spouse, do not get back in the States compared to the U.K.

My own mother realized I found something when she started learning more about Mencap. I was living with my parents. Eventually, I have to leave the nest and live on my own. I recognize that I am different. If I ever need support, I know Mencap, NAS, and any other nonprofit will be there for me. 

Yeesh, good luck with that. I have lived in several countries, including the US and the UK, and whatever the government and law system is, I have been treated far worse socially on a daily basis by people in Europe and especially in the UK, than in North America. All I can think of now is getting out of the UK, for that reason and because there are far too many corrupt, greedy, and criminal firms (in many different aspects of the service industry) that have no concept of customer service and basically treat their customers like criminals by default, and everyone just seems to accept it (which is perhaps the worse thing).

At least in North America, people are usually polite and at least try to be helpful, for the most part. Here in the UK, many people can't even be bothered with basic manners anymore, and forget about fair treatment at work, which is reserved for those who are socially adept (i.e. good at manipulating others).

That being said, I can totally understand your desire to leave the US. Just be careful, though, about not getting your hopes too high about how life will really be in the UK. Sorry I can't give any immigration advice but I wish you the best.

Why? 

We have the providers of this forum doing a lot of work for autism and there are organisations in the communities doing work for Autism locally and campaigning. Get on board with them, don't confuse the issue by starting up new things.

We are going through BREXIT, leaving Europe, immigration, disability rights and human rights are to be decided. 

You seem uninformed about the country you want to come and save. 

It's well meaning but niave and blue-sky with no real track record of achievements to bring and put in place here. Do your research on London, the cost of living and the crime there, drugs, gangs, knives, guns, terrorist attacks, how would your anxieties be there?!

What if you don't like it here? 

Dfactor said:

When you take organizations like Mencap and NAS in mind, why should I go elsewhere?

Mad Max.....We don't need another hero!